fyi, every city needs a Dun eventually. We can do this 50h overflow thing simultaneously or at different times.
Shame we can't use a spy to sabotage our own walls.
Shame we can't use a spy to sabotage our own walls.
Old trick.Whoa, you are really smart!
Ya, stone+horse and pillage horse.
i don't understand why notThe problem is, it doesn’t work work well with Oracle
Sure. Lots of possibilities. Some AI has a p2 and p5 city.It could be a copper mine too, right? I doubt an AI has already hooked up Stone this early but I guess it's possible.
6t at 8hpt to get to 48/50 for an extra 20h whereas building the oracle give 24h. In other words, might as well pre-build rax. Actually slightly better, except we don’t need rax. But we could still use the dun later for 60 failgold.i don't understand why not
but we will probably have stone first anyway
oh, right, we can't start the Dun til T63. Ok, that's a good reason to go ahead with IW then. Priesthood is 72-ish.6t at 8hpt to get to 48/50
The trade-off you’re making with this trick is empire-wide access to stone + [other resource] for 1t:I played around in the test game but I can't get the timing to work.
I had 96/50 in walls after whipping. I gave the stone and horse to Zara (our test game SB). Now I tried two things:
1. End turn, pillage horse - I did not have access to stone until the following turn.
2. Pillage horse, end turn - I had stone at the start of the turn after the whip but I only had +25 OF hammers (96-50)/2 = 23 + 2? hammers from organic build (should have been +9).
I'm not sure how to get +50 raw hammer OF.
Can someone else get it to work in the test game? Attached is the test game I was using.
I assume this doesn’t affect our trade relations with SH. So the only catch is, we’re limited to overflows each turn into the number available wonders. Hopefully Stonehenge, great wall, Moai.So let me get this straight, we can whip 1 pop and get 100 into GW. Or build Henge in 1 turn (edit: oops, no it's 120h not 100h)
What a great way to jumpstart failgold. We just have that setup time between getting stone and prepping the Dun.
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1. works : 50h and no access to stone 1tI'm not sure how to get +50 raw hammer OF.
The trade-off you’re making with this trick is empire-wide access to stone + [other resource] for 1t:
OMG, Actually, we don't lose access to stone. I'm shocked. I had 50h OF + 9 and it showed no stone (but I had pillaged horse on whip+1t)1. works : 50h and no access to stone 1t