[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

[LowtherCastle]

Btw, I agree with rax in Profit for happiness. Those GA-enhanced moai tiles rock.

Rax is particularly good in Profit for HE fail gold as soon as we have an 8xp unit.

I’m building GLib there this turn. Rax done in 2t, in time for growth.

 

[LowtherCastle]

We need to be prepared to delay the GM mission if Moscow appears to be building a harbor, which take him all of 3t without whipping.

If Confu were in Moscow, he might be spamming it.

 

[WastinTime]

If Confu were in Moscow, he might be spamming it.

I know what you're trying to say, but Peter would probably be Tao and spamming those missionaries if we gambled spread to Moscow.
He's got plenty of big cities to spam confu. Moscow has been busy anyway.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Peter might be building Chichen or Angkor Wat though. If SB still has gpt after the deal is cancelled, you can sell it again.

Right, there are 3 wonders Peter could be building.

That means a 33% chance to get double wealth if we put hammers into great library.

Peter got Literature on T129 right?
If it is Great Library, he must have started it right away to get over 300 hammers already.

We need to be prepared to delay the GM mission if Moscow appears to be building a harbor, which take him all of 3t without whipping.

If Confu were in Moscow, he might be spamming it.

There is no way to tell if Peter is about to get harbor in Moscow.
We should take the 1300 I think on T145.
Stop building Wealth and start putting double hammers into Hermitage, Chichen, Great Library, and eventually Heroic Epic.

Maybe wait on the trade mission an extra turn if Peter slows on Engineering?

Then again, 200 more gold is a lot.
And fail gold in gobs only occurs after whipping.
Hmm


A more serious decision is Civil Service for Sitting Bull.
It should probably be sold T144 at the latest.
That way we can do T145 Nationalism if SB goes down to 1T on feudalism by T145.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Btw, I agree with rax in Profit for happiness. Those GA-enhanced moai tiles rock.

The rax will give us +6 +6 and +12 yup

 

[LowtherCastle]

I know what you're trying to say, but Peter would probably be Tao and spamming those missionaries if we gambled spread to Moscow.
He's got plenty of big cities to spam confu. Moscow has been busy anyway.

Actually not. I’m simply saying that it’s something to think about because we want him REXing. Actually, more powerful might be just seeding those three seafood islands asap with Confu, mainly to pop their borders for Sushi asap.

The heck with waiting for Moscow to seed them.

With Astro we could even send wbs over to gift. 30h per sushi.

 

[LowtherCastle]

There is no way to tell if Peter is about to get harbor in Moscow.
We should take the 1300 I think on T145.

Maybe wait on the trade mission an extra turn if Peter slows on Engineering?

Then again, 200 more gold is a lot.
And fail gold in gobs only occurs after whipping.
Hmm

I’m seeing:
T143 GLib
T144 ~30h
T145 ~60h, pretty convincing to me
T146 ~90h another wonder, or
T146 harbor done

We wait one turn at most.

A more serious decision is Civil Service for Sitting Bull.
It should probably be sold T144 at the latest.
That way we can do T145 Nationalism if SB goes down to 1T on feudalism by T145.

Ok. Thx

 

[Kaitzilla]

Actually not. I’m simply saying that it’s something to think about because we want him REXing. Actually, more powerful might be just seeding those three seafood islands asap with Confu, mainly to pop their borders for Sushi asap.

The heck with waiting for Moscow to seed them.

With Astro we could even send wbs over to gift. 30h per sushi.

Cheaper to sell Peter music and let him pop borders by building culture.

Also, if we share a war against Sitting Bull, Peter will stay friendly with us in Tao I think if he switches.

Gift workboats?
Been a while since I did that.
I think my AI just sailed it around half the time.
Might work if Peter has a full map.

 

[LowtherCastle]

We’ll sell P music+nationalism for War, right?

 

[WastinTime]

mainly to pop their borders for Sushi asap.

I believe Peter will build culture when he has music. I think we can rely on him to make his own wbs too.
oops, Kait just said that.
And like he said, Tao-Friendly was a long term option. Then we don't get -happy for war with brothers/sisters.

 

[WastinTime]

We’ll sell P music+nationalism for War, right?

only if it takes that much tech to convince him. otherwise, wait and sell Music when he has 70g or something

 

[LowtherCastle]

@WT: I’ll be damned if I can find it. Did you want me prebuilding some stuff for maxOF whips?

 

[LowtherCastle]

Guys, I got snowed under today. I wrap it up or turn it over tomorrow.

 

[WastinTime]

@WT: I’ll be damned if I can find it. Did you want me prebuilding some stuff for maxOF whips?

I think we can worry about those preps next turnset. We don't want to prep until we have our GM gold. We need to build wealth.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Turnset Complete T135-T145

Report is here

Peter built the Great Library. Engineering (T148) Then Moscow built some unit. But now has 35h in something. If we can hold the trade mission off 1-2t, it might score us 200g.

We have 5 GS and 2 GMs. Final two GPs right on schedule.

2 SB scouts lurking. One near Science, one near Silver. I kept a couple GSes near Science, in addition to the chariot, to impede scout from landing on a resource.

I misclicked on our Cow caravel costing us two turns exploration and sending it southward. We should still be able to drop the GS off and hopefully meet France.

Over to you, Kait!!!

 

[LowtherCastle]

SB’s 1t from Feudalism. He got CS T143 so we can give him Nationalism and revolt him now if we want to DoW T145, drop off a musket and chariot, then attack T146, part from land, part amphibiously.

 

[WastinTime]

Peter Engineering (T148)

Was looking like 147, you think it slipped? or maybe drop to (1) next turn?

 

[LowtherCastle]

Was looking like 147, you think it slipped? or maybe drop to (1) next turn?

I saw it as T149 before GLib. Gained a turn.

Save uploaded btw.

 

[WastinTime]

We should still be able to drop the GS off and hopefully meet France

Looks like we can drop him in Prague and still get to silver in plenty of time for sushi.
Meet France T150.

I see we're doing a nice -13 gpt with 55g, so no reason to do the GM yet. If we get conquer gold and pillaging we could last a while.

 

[WastinTime]

good job! @LowtherCastle
Our GP plan up to Bio was flawless! We are guaranteed 100% GS (with MM in Silver)
That would have been at least 3 turn delay without the 6th GS.

Small tweak to the GPP plan: We assumed loss of Parthenon T147, but we will still have it. So Whales will be done 1t sooner.
Might not have any value, but maybe lets us draft there? or maybe we were drafting anyway.

I think we can get Preserves started 1t sooner and Biology 1t sooner, NatPark 1t sooner, but sushi : no change.
It means we lose monasteries 1t sooner which hopefully isn't enough to actually cause a 1t delay in sushi (we can fix that problem if it arises)
The secret to doing 1t faster is to get Chemistry in 1t which needs ~1000:
145 PPress (don't complete it)
146 Corporation (delays extra trade rts 1 turn)
147 PPress (with like 800 overflow)
148 (Eng) bulb Chem, research Chem.
149 2bulb SM, finish it
150 3bulb Bio, finish it (trade for Calendar) (workers start preserves)
151-153 Liberalism (yeah, looks like 3 turns)
154 (Med, sushi) start Astronomy

Note: if Peter's Eng(1) on T147 somehow is still Eng(1) on T148, we'd just have to dump our OF into Liberalism, and Chem would take 2 turns. Sushi is unaffected, but Bio slips 1t.

We may need to consider a little build research to hit some of these targets, but I don't think we should go full on build research which we could do with the GM mission.
We surely could get sushi 1t sooner if we did that, but we'd be burning up our GM gold in a pretty non efficient way.
Bio/NPark is more important than sushi anyway and we don't accelerate that at all with build research.

I would also not work the Deer tile in Cows unless there's a reason we need to grow rt now. Do a scientist.