WillowBrook
Lurker
Nice job, Tomoyo!
Love the graphs, Alan!
Good luck, Leif!
Love the graphs, Alan!
Good luck, Leif!
SGOTM6 - Xteam
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Excellent work Tomoyo!! 
I've got it and will see if I can keep up with Tomoyo....
I've got it and will see if I can keep up with Tomoyo....
WillowBrook
Lurker
We may have a chance of catching up with tao on culture (provided we don't go broke), but they are catching up with up on spam (i.e., posts per turn).
Hence this post.
Hence this post.
Let's assume that means they are in trouble 
[EDIT] I've no doubt whatever that they'll be wondering, and worrying, about that sharp corner Tomoyo's managed to put in our culture curve.
[EDIT] I've no doubt whatever that they'll be wondering, and worrying, about that sharp corner Tomoyo's managed to put in our culture curve.
Tomoyo
Fate
Oh, so I managed to get us behind in the spam race?
It will be interesting if someone does a study on how the amount of posts in a team thread relates to success.
It will be interesting if someone does a study on how the amount of posts in a team thread relates to success.
Don't worry, Tomoyo, I'm sure it's not all your fault They are probably also excited about the latest upload from Peanuts which show that the gap has narrowed to maybe three turns. Peanuts and tao are likely to finish neck and neck in about 13 turns, judging from their curves.
They are probably also excited about the latest upload from Peanuts which show that the gap has narrowed to maybe three turns. Peanuts and tao are likely to finish neck and neck in about 13 turns, judging from their curves.Tomoyo
Fate
It's also interesting that I can barely see team Ivan's line... They are all play very similar games...
And I kind of wish I was able to see their threads now.
And I kind of wish I was able to see their threads now.
If you turn off the C3C team graphs by unchecking the [All] checkbox at the top of the column and then clicking the [Refresh] button you can see the Classic team curves easier. Ivan are not doing very well, but they are 40 turns behind us.
Tomoyo
Fate
Ack, I meant RowandLive, on Ivan.AlanH said:
Who knows, maybe Ivan is playing a game like ours?
DJMGator13
Still breathing
That is strange how R&L and Peanuts culture graphs overlay each other. I've played a few SG's with most of the R&L team they are good players.
Tomoyo
Fate
Ivan won last time. I'm surprised that their culture graph looks so flat.
WillowBrook
Lurker
But note that Ivan's culture graph is steeper than ours was at that time. And we plan on catching up.
I find team Offa's apparent decision not to get RR interesting - and they're clearly on track for the C3C laurels. But they have the agricultural trait, and more good land having taken out the Babs and Americans instead of the Mongols and Carthage.
I find team Offa's apparent decision not to get RR interesting - and they're clearly on track for the C3C laurels. But they have the agricultural trait, and more good land having taken out the Babs and Americans instead of the Mongols and Carthage.
Tomoyo
Fate
Team Offa's decision to not go for RR was indeed interesting. However, I think if they were in the milking phase that early, they could afford to skip RRs...
Have played 3 turns and am right on Alan's track of 60 cpt average. I was above it until the last turn and now that many of the Temples, Libraries and Cathedrals are built, I may have to look at more settlers to fill in the French area.
Made peace with France for 600 gold, we'll need it.
The turn log so far follows:
Turn 235 - 1200AD
Pre-flight.
260 cities, 25044 culture and 1336 cpt.
We are losing 87 Gold per turn!! We need to try to reduce this.
Trade Horses to England for 18 Gold per turn.
Trade Wines to England for 22 Gold per turn.
Now it is down to 48 GPT, much better.
Hire a taxman in Dalandzadgad.
Hire a taxman in Gergovia2.
Hire a Taxman in New Ratae Coritanorum.
Pop-rush a LB in Hovd, change back to Marketplace.
Pop-rush an Explorer in Capiendum Carthaginis, change back to settler.
Pop-rush a Harbor in Niagra Falls.
Looks pretty good so I hit enter.
IBT
The deal with America for horses expires and they dont want to pay 26 GPT for tyhem any longer, we have to settle for 25 GPT.
Our Reg Rifle successfully defends against a French Vet Rifle, redlining and promotes near New Lyon.
Paris Cathedral => Wealth.
Niagra Falls Harbor => Wealth.
Leptis Magna Settler => Wealth.
Nanjing Cathedral => Wealth.
Avingnon Cathedral => Wealth.
Besancon Temple => Wealth.
Hakodate Settler => Wealth.
Brest Temple => Wealth, MM for food.
Lezoux Cathedral => Wealth.
New Gergovia Cathedral => Wealth.
Gators Point Cathedral => Wealth.
New Lindum Cathedral => Wealth.
New Lezoux Settler => Wealth.
Rolling Hills Cathedral => Wealth.
Tolosa 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
Glanum 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
Segusio 2 Library => Wealth.
New Richborough 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
New Cataractonium 2 Library => Wealth.
New glevum 2 Library => Wealth.
Turn 236 1210 AD
260 cities, 26437 culture and 1410 cpt; -73 gpt
Battle of Grenoble.
Cannonade: f, -1 HP, -1 HP, f, f, f, f, f, -1 HP, Barracks destroyed, f, f, f, f, f, f, f, Library destroyed, f, f, University destroyed, f. 3 Rifles showed, 2 Vets and 1 reg, all lost a single HP.
5/5 Cav attacks 3/4 Rifle and, loses 1 HP on a Bowmans shot, redlines and retreats, no damage.
5/5 Cav attacks 3/4 Rifle and dies, redlining the Rifle.
4/4 Cav attacks 3/4 Rifle and kills him flawlessly.
5/5 Cav attacks 2/2 Rifle and kills him, redlining.
5/5 Cav attcks 2/3 Rifle and kills him, 4/5.
Activate Reg Cav Army (14/14) and attack 1/4 Rifle and kills him, 13/14.
Reg Cav Army (13/13) attacks 4/4 LB and kills him flawlessly, capturing Grenoble, 184 Gold and 1 Worker. There are 7 resisters. Fortify Army in Grenoble as there is nothing else atm and there are 2 French rifles and a LB in the vicinity.
Battle for New Lyons.
Cannonade: f, -1 HP, f, f, f, -1 HP, f. Take no further action.
Bombard a French Ironclad, take 2 HP.
Found Noviomagus 3, start a Temple.
Found Arausio 3, start a Temple.
Found Durocortorum, start a Temple.
Hire a taxman in New Tolosa 2, New Entremont, Hangzhou, Camulodunum, Carthage, St. Regis, New Ratae Coritanorum 2, Choybalsan and Oil Springs.
Draft a citizen in Carthage, WillowBrook, Eboracum2, Cataractonium, Edo, Lazy Summer, St. Regis, Tours, New Lugdunum, Qingdao, Mohacs, Lyons and Beijing.
Time to figure out culture rushing.
Rush a Harbor in Theveste for 2 citizens.
Rush a Settler in Eboracum 2.
Rush a Temple in Leeds for 2 citizens.
Rush a Temple in Tours for 1 citizen.
Disband Rifle in Liverpool and rush a Library for 3 citizens.
Disband Rifle in New Mohacs and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Disband Rifle in Lindum and rush a Cathedral for 3 citizens.
Disband Rifle in Isca and rush a Cathedral for 2 citizens.
Rush Temple in New Lezoux 2 for 1 citizen.
Rush a Temple in New Noviomagus 2 for 1 citizen.
Rush an Explorer in New Tolosa 2 for 1 citizen, disband a rifle and rush a Library for 2 citizens.
Rush a Settler in Lapurdum 2 for 1 citizen, disband a Rifle and rush a Cathedral for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Mohacs 2, disband a Rifle and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush an Explorer in The other place for 1 citizen, disband Rifle and rush a Library for 2 citizens.
Rush an Explorer in New Glanum 2, disband a Rifle and rush a Library for 2 citizens.
Rush an Explorer in Ningpo for 1 citizen, disband a rifle and rush a Library for 2 citizens.
Disband a rifle in Darhan and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a LB in New Deva, disband a Rifle and rush a Library for 1 citizen.
Rush an Explorer in Orleans for 1 citizen, disband a Rifle and rush a Cathedral for 2 citizens.
Rush a Temple in Toyama for 1 citizen.
Rush Harbor in Dearest for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Deva, disband a Rifle in Deva and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor in Rouen for 2 citizens.
Rush a Settler in Gergovia for 1 citizen, rush a Frigate for 2 citizens and a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Settler in New Nemausus for 1 citizen, rush a Frigate for 2 citizens and a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Frigate in Southern Exposure for 1 citizen and a Library for 1 citizen.
Rush a Settler in Lapurdum for 1 citizen.
Rush a Settler in Cirta for 1 citizen, rush a Frigate for 2 citizens and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Set Amiens to Wealth.
Decide to take a break and sleep on it .
Rush an Explorer in New Burdigala 2 for 1 citizen and change to a Harbor and rush it for another citizen.
Rush a Cannon in New Monguntiacum2 for 2 citizens and rush a Library for 2 more citizens.
Rush a Worker in Camulodunum 3 for 1 citizen and change to Temple and rush for another.
Rush a Worker in Entremont3 for 1 citizen and change to Temple and rush for another citizen.
Rush a Worker in Richborough3 for 1 citizen and change to a Temple and rush it for another.
Rush an Explorer in Qianqin for 1 citizen and change to Harbor and rush it for another.
Rush a Settler in Tatong for 2 citizens.
Rush a Settler in Mohacs for 2 citizens.
Rush an Explorer in Hastings for 1 citizen, change to a Frigate and rush it for 2 citizens and change it ti a Cathedral and rush it for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor in Sabratha for 2 citizens.
Rush Settler in Erdenent for 1 citizen.
Go through the town to maximize growth.
IBT
Our Cav Army in Grenoble defeats 2 French Rifle attacks, but is redlined.
Orleans Library => Wealth.
Tours Temple => Wealth, hire 2 taxmen.
Mohacs Settler => Wealth, need to hire a clown! Guess theyre unhappy.
Hastings Cathedral => Wealth.
Theveste Harbor => Wealth.
Cirta Cathedral => Wealth.
Rouen Harbor => Wealth.
Eboracum 2 Settler => Wealth, hire a taxman.
Qianqin Harbor => Wealth.
Sabratha Harbor => Wealth, MM for food.
Gergovia Cathedral => Wealth.
Tatong Settler => Wealth.
We quelled 2 resisters in Grenoble.
Darhan Cathedral => Wealth.
Lapurdum Settler => Wealth.
Liverpool Library => Wealth.
Toyama Temple => Wealth.
Lindum Cathedral => Wealth.
Isca Cathedral => Wealth.
Erdenet Settler => Wealth.
Leeds Temple => Wealth.
New Deva Library => Wealth.
Ningpo Library => Wealth, hire a taxman.
Deva Cathedral => Wealth.
New Mohacs Cathedral => Wealth.
New Nemausas Cathedral => Wealth.
Dearest Harbor => Wealth.
Mohacs 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
Southern Exposure Library => Wealth.
Lapurdum 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
New Burdigala 2 Harbor => Wealth.
New Tolosa 2 Library => Wealth.
New Glanum 2 Library => Wealth.
The other place Library => Wealth.
New Monguntiacum 2 Library => Wealth.
New Lezoux 2 Temple => Wealth.
New Noviomagus 2 Temple => Wealth.
Entremont 3 Temple => Wealth.
Camulodunum 3 Temple => Wealth.
Richborough 3 Temple => Wealth.
Turn 237 1220 AD
264 cities, 27906 culture, 1488 cpt, -74 gpt.
I decide to make peace with France as we have most of the useful land available, they are attacking our Cav Armies with Rifles and hurting them and we can get Gold for peace, very useful these days. If we need to take more of France, well have our chance later, perhaps.
So, it is peace with France for 600 Gold. They would have given us 2 cities, but they are on the margins and no use to us, so I decided Gold was the best bet.
I then turn around and sell France Wool for 4 gpt. Ill try again soon as they need almost all of the luxs.
Note: The English leader that Tomoyo saw is still standing in the same place, exposed and useless. I wonder what that is all about??
Transport 2 Settlers to the former French zone using a nicely set up ship chain.
Found the towns of New Entremont 3, Captains Cabin, New Mohacs 3, start Wealth.
Hire a taxman in Hakodate, New Tolosa, Edo, New Cataractonium 2, Monguntiacum 2, Alans Cabin, Ratae Coritanorum 2, Augustodurum, Centralia, Matsuyama and New Agedinicum.
Look for size 7 cities to draft from: Beijing, Cataractonium, New Richborough, Edo, Lazy Summer, St. Regis, Qingdao, Agedincum and Lyons.
Now to look for culture rushing:
Rush a Cathedral in Ratae Coritanorum for 2 citizens.
Rush a Harbor in Hadrumetum for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Ise for 1 citizen, disband a Rifle and change to Cathedral, rush for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor in By the Sea for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Glanum for 2 citizens, change to Cathedral and rush for another 2 citizens.
Rush a Cannon in Tsetserleg for 2 citizens, disband a Rifle and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a LB in Dijon for 2 citizens, rush a Frigate for 1 citizen and a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a LB in Bayonne for 2 citizens, change to Cathedral and disband a Rifle, rush the Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor in Sapporo for 2 citizens.
Rush a Frigate in Xian for 3 citizens, rush a Rifle for 1 citizen and a Marketplace for 1 citizen.
Rush a LB in Segusio for 1 citizen, disband a Rifle and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Settler in Chengdu for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Axima for 2 citizens, rush a Frigate for 1 citizen and a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a LB in Richborough 2 for 1 citizen, change to Cathedral and disband a Rifle and then rush the Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Disband a Rifle in Madalgovi, rush a Frigate for 2 citizens and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Frigate for 2 citizens and a Cathedral for 1 more.
Rush a Cannon in New Arausio for 2 citizens, a Frigate for 1 more and a Cathedral with another.
Rush a Frigate in New Eboracum for 3 citizens, a Rifle for another and a Marketplace with the last.
Rush a LB in Gades for 2 citizens, a Frigate for 1 citizen and a Library for 1 citizen.
Rush a Settler for 1 citizen in Capiendum Carthaginis.
Rush a Frigate in Central Penn. for 2 citizens and a Library for 1 more.
Rush a Harbor in Curovernum 2 for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Rutupiae 2 for 2 citizens and a Cathedral for 2 more.
Rush a LB in New Gergovia 2 for 2 citizens, a Rifle for 2 citizens and an Aqueduct for 1 more.
Rush a Temple in New Arausio 2 for 1 citizen.
Rush a Temple in New Durocortorum 2 for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor is Lugdunum for 2 citizens.
Rush a Worker in Verulamium 3 for 1 citizen and a Temple for another.
Rush a Worker in Gergovia 3 for 1 citizen and a Temple for another.
Rush a LB in Karakorum for 2 citizens and then a Cathedral for 2 more.
Rush a Harbor in Kagoshima for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in New Eboracum 2 for 2 citizens, change to Cathedral and disband a Rifle and rush the Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor in New Lapurdum for 2 citizens.
Rush a frigate in Nagasaki for 2 citizens, change to a Cathedral and rush it for 1 more.
Rush a Frigate in Tonawanda for 3 citizens, a Cavalry for 1 more and an Aqueduct for 1 final one.
St. Regis has been producing drafted Rifles, but is now quite unhappy with us for doing this. It can build a Marketplace, so we rush a LB for 2 citizens, a Rifle for 2 more and a Marketplace with the last one. They are so pissed at us that I have to hire a taxman for now.
Rush a LB in Richborough for 2 citizens, disband a Rifle and rush a Library with another citizen.
IBT
The Indians request and audience. They offer us Medicine for 1720 Gold. Instead, we offer them some fine silks and they give us 7 gpt for them.
The French Galleons depart from our shores, see ya sucker!!
Karakorum Cathedral => Wealth.
Lugdunum Harbor => Wealth.
Kagoshima Harbor => Wealth.
New Eboracum 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
Richborough Library => Wealth.
New Lapurdum Harbor => Wealth.
Nagasaki Cathedral => Wealth.
Tonawanda Aqueduct => Wealth.
St. Regis Marketplace => Wealth.
The resistance in Grenoble ends.
Dijon Cathedral => Wealth.
Sapporo Harbor => Wealth.
Ratae Coritanorum Cathedral => Wealth.
Xian Marketplace => Wealth.
Hadrumetum Harbor => Wealth.
Ise Cathedral => Wealth.
By the Sea Harbor => Wealth.
Glanum Cathedral => Wealth.
Segusio Cathedral => Wealth.
Bayonne Cathedral => Wealth.
Tsetserleg Cathedral => Wealth.
Chengdu Settler => Wealth.
Axima Cathedral => Wealth.
Rchborough 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
Mandalgovi Cathedral => Wealth.
Carthago Novo Cathedral => Wealth.
New Arausio Cathedral => Wealth.
New Eboracum Marketplace => Wealth.
Gades Library => Wealth.
Capiendum Carthaginis Settler => Wealth.
Central Penn. Library => Wealth.
Curovernum Harbor => Wealth.
Rutupiae 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
New Gergovia 2 Aqueduct => Wealth.
New Arausio 2 Temple => Wealth.
New Durocortorum 2 Temple => Wealth.
Verulamium 3 Temple => Wealth.
Gergovia 3 Temple => Wealth.
Turn 238 1230 AD
267 cities, 29440 culture, 1521 cpt, -70 gpt., Treasury = 6654 gold
Thought I would add the save in case anyone is interested.
Made peace with France for 600 gold, we'll need it.
The turn log so far follows:
Turn 235 - 1200AD
Pre-flight.
260 cities, 25044 culture and 1336 cpt.
We are losing 87 Gold per turn!! We need to try to reduce this.
Trade Horses to England for 18 Gold per turn.
Trade Wines to England for 22 Gold per turn.
Now it is down to 48 GPT, much better.
Hire a taxman in Dalandzadgad.
Hire a taxman in Gergovia2.
Hire a Taxman in New Ratae Coritanorum.
Pop-rush a LB in Hovd, change back to Marketplace.
Pop-rush an Explorer in Capiendum Carthaginis, change back to settler.
Pop-rush a Harbor in Niagra Falls.
Looks pretty good so I hit enter.
IBT
The deal with America for horses expires and they dont want to pay 26 GPT for tyhem any longer, we have to settle for 25 GPT.
Our Reg Rifle successfully defends against a French Vet Rifle, redlining and promotes near New Lyon.
Paris Cathedral => Wealth.
Niagra Falls Harbor => Wealth.
Leptis Magna Settler => Wealth.
Nanjing Cathedral => Wealth.
Avingnon Cathedral => Wealth.
Besancon Temple => Wealth.
Hakodate Settler => Wealth.
Brest Temple => Wealth, MM for food.
Lezoux Cathedral => Wealth.
New Gergovia Cathedral => Wealth.
Gators Point Cathedral => Wealth.
New Lindum Cathedral => Wealth.
New Lezoux Settler => Wealth.
Rolling Hills Cathedral => Wealth.
Tolosa 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
Glanum 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
Segusio 2 Library => Wealth.
New Richborough 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
New Cataractonium 2 Library => Wealth.
New glevum 2 Library => Wealth.
Turn 236 1210 AD
260 cities, 26437 culture and 1410 cpt; -73 gpt
Battle of Grenoble.
Cannonade: f, -1 HP, -1 HP, f, f, f, f, f, -1 HP, Barracks destroyed, f, f, f, f, f, f, f, Library destroyed, f, f, University destroyed, f. 3 Rifles showed, 2 Vets and 1 reg, all lost a single HP.
5/5 Cav attacks 3/4 Rifle and, loses 1 HP on a Bowmans shot, redlines and retreats, no damage.
5/5 Cav attacks 3/4 Rifle and dies, redlining the Rifle.
4/4 Cav attacks 3/4 Rifle and kills him flawlessly.
5/5 Cav attacks 2/2 Rifle and kills him, redlining.
5/5 Cav attcks 2/3 Rifle and kills him, 4/5.
Activate Reg Cav Army (14/14) and attack 1/4 Rifle and kills him, 13/14.
Reg Cav Army (13/13) attacks 4/4 LB and kills him flawlessly, capturing Grenoble, 184 Gold and 1 Worker. There are 7 resisters. Fortify Army in Grenoble as there is nothing else atm and there are 2 French rifles and a LB in the vicinity.
Battle for New Lyons.
Cannonade: f, -1 HP, f, f, f, -1 HP, f. Take no further action.
Bombard a French Ironclad, take 2 HP.
Found Noviomagus 3, start a Temple.
Found Arausio 3, start a Temple.
Found Durocortorum, start a Temple.
Hire a taxman in New Tolosa 2, New Entremont, Hangzhou, Camulodunum, Carthage, St. Regis, New Ratae Coritanorum 2, Choybalsan and Oil Springs.
Draft a citizen in Carthage, WillowBrook, Eboracum2, Cataractonium, Edo, Lazy Summer, St. Regis, Tours, New Lugdunum, Qingdao, Mohacs, Lyons and Beijing.
Time to figure out culture rushing.
Rush a Harbor in Theveste for 2 citizens.
Rush a Settler in Eboracum 2.
Rush a Temple in Leeds for 2 citizens.
Rush a Temple in Tours for 1 citizen.
Disband Rifle in Liverpool and rush a Library for 3 citizens.
Disband Rifle in New Mohacs and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Disband Rifle in Lindum and rush a Cathedral for 3 citizens.
Disband Rifle in Isca and rush a Cathedral for 2 citizens.
Rush Temple in New Lezoux 2 for 1 citizen.
Rush a Temple in New Noviomagus 2 for 1 citizen.
Rush an Explorer in New Tolosa 2 for 1 citizen, disband a rifle and rush a Library for 2 citizens.
Rush a Settler in Lapurdum 2 for 1 citizen, disband a Rifle and rush a Cathedral for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Mohacs 2, disband a Rifle and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush an Explorer in The other place for 1 citizen, disband Rifle and rush a Library for 2 citizens.
Rush an Explorer in New Glanum 2, disband a Rifle and rush a Library for 2 citizens.
Rush an Explorer in Ningpo for 1 citizen, disband a rifle and rush a Library for 2 citizens.
Disband a rifle in Darhan and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a LB in New Deva, disband a Rifle and rush a Library for 1 citizen.
Rush an Explorer in Orleans for 1 citizen, disband a Rifle and rush a Cathedral for 2 citizens.
Rush a Temple in Toyama for 1 citizen.
Rush Harbor in Dearest for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Deva, disband a Rifle in Deva and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor in Rouen for 2 citizens.
Rush a Settler in Gergovia for 1 citizen, rush a Frigate for 2 citizens and a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Settler in New Nemausus for 1 citizen, rush a Frigate for 2 citizens and a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Frigate in Southern Exposure for 1 citizen and a Library for 1 citizen.
Rush a Settler in Lapurdum for 1 citizen.
Rush a Settler in Cirta for 1 citizen, rush a Frigate for 2 citizens and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Set Amiens to Wealth.
Decide to take a break and sleep on it .
Rush an Explorer in New Burdigala 2 for 1 citizen and change to a Harbor and rush it for another citizen.
Rush a Cannon in New Monguntiacum2 for 2 citizens and rush a Library for 2 more citizens.
Rush a Worker in Camulodunum 3 for 1 citizen and change to Temple and rush for another.
Rush a Worker in Entremont3 for 1 citizen and change to Temple and rush for another citizen.
Rush a Worker in Richborough3 for 1 citizen and change to a Temple and rush it for another.
Rush an Explorer in Qianqin for 1 citizen and change to Harbor and rush it for another.
Rush a Settler in Tatong for 2 citizens.
Rush a Settler in Mohacs for 2 citizens.
Rush an Explorer in Hastings for 1 citizen, change to a Frigate and rush it for 2 citizens and change it ti a Cathedral and rush it for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor in Sabratha for 2 citizens.
Rush Settler in Erdenent for 1 citizen.
Go through the town to maximize growth.
IBT
Our Cav Army in Grenoble defeats 2 French Rifle attacks, but is redlined.
Orleans Library => Wealth.
Tours Temple => Wealth, hire 2 taxmen.
Mohacs Settler => Wealth, need to hire a clown! Guess theyre unhappy.
Hastings Cathedral => Wealth.
Theveste Harbor => Wealth.
Cirta Cathedral => Wealth.
Rouen Harbor => Wealth.
Eboracum 2 Settler => Wealth, hire a taxman.
Qianqin Harbor => Wealth.
Sabratha Harbor => Wealth, MM for food.
Gergovia Cathedral => Wealth.
Tatong Settler => Wealth.
We quelled 2 resisters in Grenoble.
Darhan Cathedral => Wealth.
Lapurdum Settler => Wealth.
Liverpool Library => Wealth.
Toyama Temple => Wealth.
Lindum Cathedral => Wealth.
Isca Cathedral => Wealth.
Erdenet Settler => Wealth.
Leeds Temple => Wealth.
New Deva Library => Wealth.
Ningpo Library => Wealth, hire a taxman.
Deva Cathedral => Wealth.
New Mohacs Cathedral => Wealth.
New Nemausas Cathedral => Wealth.
Dearest Harbor => Wealth.
Mohacs 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
Southern Exposure Library => Wealth.
Lapurdum 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
New Burdigala 2 Harbor => Wealth.
New Tolosa 2 Library => Wealth.
New Glanum 2 Library => Wealth.
The other place Library => Wealth.
New Monguntiacum 2 Library => Wealth.
New Lezoux 2 Temple => Wealth.
New Noviomagus 2 Temple => Wealth.
Entremont 3 Temple => Wealth.
Camulodunum 3 Temple => Wealth.
Richborough 3 Temple => Wealth.
Turn 237 1220 AD
264 cities, 27906 culture, 1488 cpt, -74 gpt.
I decide to make peace with France as we have most of the useful land available, they are attacking our Cav Armies with Rifles and hurting them and we can get Gold for peace, very useful these days. If we need to take more of France, well have our chance later, perhaps.
So, it is peace with France for 600 Gold. They would have given us 2 cities, but they are on the margins and no use to us, so I decided Gold was the best bet.
I then turn around and sell France Wool for 4 gpt. Ill try again soon as they need almost all of the luxs.
Note: The English leader that Tomoyo saw is still standing in the same place, exposed and useless. I wonder what that is all about??
Transport 2 Settlers to the former French zone using a nicely set up ship chain.
Found the towns of New Entremont 3, Captains Cabin, New Mohacs 3, start Wealth.
Hire a taxman in Hakodate, New Tolosa, Edo, New Cataractonium 2, Monguntiacum 2, Alans Cabin, Ratae Coritanorum 2, Augustodurum, Centralia, Matsuyama and New Agedinicum.
Look for size 7 cities to draft from: Beijing, Cataractonium, New Richborough, Edo, Lazy Summer, St. Regis, Qingdao, Agedincum and Lyons.
Now to look for culture rushing:
Rush a Cathedral in Ratae Coritanorum for 2 citizens.
Rush a Harbor in Hadrumetum for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Ise for 1 citizen, disband a Rifle and change to Cathedral, rush for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor in By the Sea for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Glanum for 2 citizens, change to Cathedral and rush for another 2 citizens.
Rush a Cannon in Tsetserleg for 2 citizens, disband a Rifle and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a LB in Dijon for 2 citizens, rush a Frigate for 1 citizen and a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a LB in Bayonne for 2 citizens, change to Cathedral and disband a Rifle, rush the Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor in Sapporo for 2 citizens.
Rush a Frigate in Xian for 3 citizens, rush a Rifle for 1 citizen and a Marketplace for 1 citizen.
Rush a LB in Segusio for 1 citizen, disband a Rifle and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Settler in Chengdu for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Axima for 2 citizens, rush a Frigate for 1 citizen and a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a LB in Richborough 2 for 1 citizen, change to Cathedral and disband a Rifle and then rush the Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Disband a Rifle in Madalgovi, rush a Frigate for 2 citizens and rush a Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Frigate for 2 citizens and a Cathedral for 1 more.
Rush a Cannon in New Arausio for 2 citizens, a Frigate for 1 more and a Cathedral with another.
Rush a Frigate in New Eboracum for 3 citizens, a Rifle for another and a Marketplace with the last.
Rush a LB in Gades for 2 citizens, a Frigate for 1 citizen and a Library for 1 citizen.
Rush a Settler for 1 citizen in Capiendum Carthaginis.
Rush a Frigate in Central Penn. for 2 citizens and a Library for 1 more.
Rush a Harbor in Curovernum 2 for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in Rutupiae 2 for 2 citizens and a Cathedral for 2 more.
Rush a LB in New Gergovia 2 for 2 citizens, a Rifle for 2 citizens and an Aqueduct for 1 more.
Rush a Temple in New Arausio 2 for 1 citizen.
Rush a Temple in New Durocortorum 2 for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor is Lugdunum for 2 citizens.
Rush a Worker in Verulamium 3 for 1 citizen and a Temple for another.
Rush a Worker in Gergovia 3 for 1 citizen and a Temple for another.
Rush a LB in Karakorum for 2 citizens and then a Cathedral for 2 more.
Rush a Harbor in Kagoshima for 2 citizens.
Rush a LB in New Eboracum 2 for 2 citizens, change to Cathedral and disband a Rifle and rush the Cathedral for 1 citizen.
Rush a Harbor in New Lapurdum for 2 citizens.
Rush a frigate in Nagasaki for 2 citizens, change to a Cathedral and rush it for 1 more.
Rush a Frigate in Tonawanda for 3 citizens, a Cavalry for 1 more and an Aqueduct for 1 final one.
St. Regis has been producing drafted Rifles, but is now quite unhappy with us for doing this. It can build a Marketplace, so we rush a LB for 2 citizens, a Rifle for 2 more and a Marketplace with the last one. They are so pissed at us that I have to hire a taxman for now.
Rush a LB in Richborough for 2 citizens, disband a Rifle and rush a Library with another citizen.
IBT
The Indians request and audience. They offer us Medicine for 1720 Gold. Instead, we offer them some fine silks and they give us 7 gpt for them.
The French Galleons depart from our shores, see ya sucker!!
Karakorum Cathedral => Wealth.
Lugdunum Harbor => Wealth.
Kagoshima Harbor => Wealth.
New Eboracum 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
Richborough Library => Wealth.
New Lapurdum Harbor => Wealth.
Nagasaki Cathedral => Wealth.
Tonawanda Aqueduct => Wealth.
St. Regis Marketplace => Wealth.
The resistance in Grenoble ends.
Dijon Cathedral => Wealth.
Sapporo Harbor => Wealth.
Ratae Coritanorum Cathedral => Wealth.
Xian Marketplace => Wealth.
Hadrumetum Harbor => Wealth.
Ise Cathedral => Wealth.
By the Sea Harbor => Wealth.
Glanum Cathedral => Wealth.
Segusio Cathedral => Wealth.
Bayonne Cathedral => Wealth.
Tsetserleg Cathedral => Wealth.
Chengdu Settler => Wealth.
Axima Cathedral => Wealth.
Rchborough 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
Mandalgovi Cathedral => Wealth.
Carthago Novo Cathedral => Wealth.
New Arausio Cathedral => Wealth.
New Eboracum Marketplace => Wealth.
Gades Library => Wealth.
Capiendum Carthaginis Settler => Wealth.
Central Penn. Library => Wealth.
Curovernum Harbor => Wealth.
Rutupiae 2 Cathedral => Wealth.
New Gergovia 2 Aqueduct => Wealth.
New Arausio 2 Temple => Wealth.
New Durocortorum 2 Temple => Wealth.
Verulamium 3 Temple => Wealth.
Gergovia 3 Temple => Wealth.
Turn 238 1230 AD
267 cities, 29440 culture, 1521 cpt, -70 gpt., Treasury = 6654 gold
Thought I would add the save in case anyone is interested.
Tomoyo
Fate
Ooh... looks good, and you managed to keep our economy sinking at a slow rate!
So many wealth builds... just remember to switch them to something one turn before you pop rush them... it is probably very tiring.
So many wealth builds... just remember to switch them to something one turn before you pop rush them... it is probably very tiring.
DJMGator13
Still breathing
Looking good so far.
Can you build settlers in some of the wealth towns?
@Tomoyo - Team Offa is C3C and has the benefit of TOA but I think they said they learned Education anyway which rendered the TOA useless. Other thing with the TOA is that the temples it creates do not double.
Can you build settlers in some of the wealth towns?
@Tomoyo - Team Offa is C3C and has the benefit of TOA but I think they said they learned Education anyway which rendered the TOA useless. Other thing with the TOA is that the temples it creates do not double.
Tomoyo
Fate
I think Offa made a mistake, then, since Unis are so damn expensive, they could have done just as well with just Cathedrals, Libraries, and Temples...
WillowBrook
Lurker
Looking good, Leif! Remember that every town founded brings in a gpt.
As for Offa, I agree that I don't understand why they'd get education if they weren't going to go the whole way to the industrial ages. Maybe they weren't exepting to get so few techs from the recapture of TGL?
Oh - I just noticed that TOA and TGL were both in Trondheim in their game. Do you lose the effect of TOA if you give away the city as they did? I'm not familiar enough with C3C to know. So it looks like keeping TOA and not getting education wasn't an option.
As for Offa, I agree that I don't understand why they'd get education if they weren't going to go the whole way to the industrial ages. Maybe they weren't exepting to get so few techs from the recapture of TGL?
Oh - I just noticed that TOA and TGL were both in Trondheim in their game. Do you lose the effect of TOA if you give away the city as they did? I'm not familiar enough with C3C to know. So it looks like keeping TOA and not getting education wasn't an option.
It took me a few minutes, but I figured that out!Tomoyo said:So many wealth builds... just remember to switch them to something one turn before you pop rush them... it is probably very tiring.
@Gator - During the IBT, I just make them all wealth and when I go through them, I'll make changes to whatever the build should be. I tried using CvAssist and CRpMapstat, but I find it easier to go through them all and make quick notes for myself. It sure is a lot of work and making sure you have the pop-rush sequence down so you don't miss. I really like the towns on the ocean because being able to use Frigates to pop-rush is wonderful.
Tomoyo
Fate
@Willowbrook: ToA temples disappear when you lose the ToA.
@Leif: I used Galleons, but Frigates or Privateers work, too.
@Leif: I used Galleons, but Frigates or Privateers work, too.
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