Should the Equal Rights Amendment Be Passed?

[Zardnaar]

Something like this?

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0082/latest/DLM304212.html

 

[Broken_Erika]

Too many people seem to enjoy button pushing.....

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Yeah, it seems she didn't take my "you're not helping" advice very seriously.

edit: that said, I'm not going to name name's, but we have some self-loathing uncle tom's which will be quick to defend her.

You're gonna have to translate that phrase, as it makes no sense.

 

[Estebonrober]

Trump can veto it, right? If so, I don't think this is getting passed with the current administration.

It has to pass with such a majority that a veto would not be possible, so no he couldn't veto it.

 

[caketastydelish]

"Such a majority" sounds very hard to achieve though.

 

[Estebonrober]

"Such a majority" sounds very hard to achieve though.

That is where this runs into an interesting legal issue. Its already been passed by congress in such a majority so all it needs is two more states technically. The question is should it have to be re litigated in congress since its been so long since it passed. I would think yes especially since Congress has turned drastically to the right since its last vote. If they get two more states to sign on though that will be put to the test in the courts.

I should add that I support this amendment whole heartedly considering the way Republican administrations act these days.

 

[Patine]

"Such a majority" sounds very hard to achieve though.

That is where this runs into an interesting legal issue. Its already been passed by congress in such a majority so all it needs is two more states technically. The question is should it have to be re litigated in congress since its been so long since it passed. I would think yes especially since Congress has turned drastically to the right since its last vote. If they get two more states to sign on though that will be put to the test in the courts.

I should add that I support this amendment whole heartedly considering the way Republican administrations act these days.

Perhaps the U.S. should take Jefferson's advice and put on a new jacket befitting their age. I just dread, however, to think what would be demanded and counter-demanded at such hypothetical convention, and if anything could truly or realistically that was at all workable in the current toxic, internally- and viciously-divided socio-political environment of the modern U.S.

 

[Estebonrober]

Perhaps the U.S. should take Jefferson's advice and put on a new jacket befitting their age. I just dread, however, to think what would be demanded and counter-demanded at such hypothetical convention, and if anything could truly or realistically that was at all workable in the current toxic, internally- and viciously-divided socio-political environment of the modern U.S.

Just as likely to turn into a white christian ethno state as anything else unfortunately. Alabama is already in Handmaid's Tale territory imo.

 

[Patine]

Just as likely to turn into a white christian ethno state as anything else unfortunately. Alabama is already in Handmaid's Tale territory imo.

I don't think such a majority of opinion or ideology exists on a national level even remotely so. Alabama has ALWAYS been behind the social curve and on the wrong side of history. It's opinions do not dictate or steer the nation's, but conversely tend to be where the last gasps of barbaric, backward, Medievalist thinking are gotten out of the nation's system.

 

[Naskra]

behind the social curve and on the wrong side of history

Are there supposed to be metaphors in these pixels? Social curve? What the hell is that? Wrong side of history? Would that be the future?

 

[Patine]

Are there supposed to be metaphors in these pixels? Social curve? What the hell is that? Wrong side of history? Would that be the future?

If English is not your first language, then your lack of recognition of these commonplace idioms is quite forgivable and understandable. But, if English is your first language, or you just happen to be aware of these terms anyways, then a certain snideness and unwarranted (and clumsy) mockery of my post seems evident. If it is the former, please look up these colloquial terms online. If the latter, I'll just ignore and move on.

 

[Naskra]

commonplace idioms

Those idioms were empty of meaning when when first uttered. They remain so. Repetition isn't lending them authority.

 

[Patine]

Those idioms were empty of meaning when when first uttered. They remain so. Repetition isn't lending them authority.

Back to Philistia with you. It's obviously where your cold, utilitarian, literalist soul belongs. It's too bad Hamas has taken over that specific area in the meantime.

 

[Naskra]

I don't know if there's such a thing as the right side of history or not - and I don''t expect to ever find out. I do know there is such a thing as poor writing. I've seen plenty of it.

 

[El_Machinae]

Are there supposed to be metaphors in these pixels? Social curve? What the hell is that? Wrong side of history? Would that be the future?

Do you know what sealioning is?

 

[Naskra]

Do you know what sealioning is?

yeah, if you want to instruct me on "the right side of history" or the "social curve", I can show you walruses. Actually, Mr Patine first annoyed me with his silly remark on Gladstone. The follow-up farrago of progressive cliche-boggling was a little too much for me.

To return to subject. No on the ERA. The crucial article II is already in force. Article I is already comprised by the now wildly ambiguous word "sex".
Or perhaps you want SCOTUS ruling on just who can you use the bidet? Or who the "mother" is in a divorce case?

 

[Patine]

yeah, if you want to instruct me on "the right side of history" or the "social curve", I can show you walruses. Actually, Mr Patine first annoyed me with his silly remark on Gladstone. The follow-up farrago of progressive cliche-boggling was a little too much for me.

To return to subject. No on the ERA. The crucial article II is already in force. Article I is already comprised by the now wildly ambiguous word "sex".
Or perhaps you want SCOTUS ruling on just who can you use the bidet? Or who the "mother" is in a divorce case?

You're not the first person to dismiss my comments as "silly" in a crude, lame, and clumsy tactic to utterly discredit them without feeling the need to back up such criticism or defend your counter-pounts. But, such tactics, I always treat with the juvenile derision they deserve. The points you "called out" - or more accurately, "whined about impotently," but didn't want to sound like that was what you were doing - are valid points, whatever immature mockery you heap on them, notwithstanding, and I don't really care if you don't agree with them or they "annoy" you, if you can't respond in any mature or articulate way.

 

[Estebonrober]

To return to subject. No on the ERA. The crucial article II is already in force. Article I is already comprised by the now wildly ambiguous word "sex".
Or perhaps you want SCOTUS ruling on just who can you use the bidet? Or who the "mother" is in a divorce case?

Article II has been getting rolled back for the last two years, article one is required to prevent further erosion of women's rights. I mean honestly for me to trust anything this government does when every other cycle its ran by the equivalent of a Victorian era bro dude. . . yea we need the ERA.

 

[Naskra]

Article II has been getting rolled back for the last two years,

Where, how? Some law? Some court ruling? Who is arguing anywhere that women can't or shouldn't have equal rights?

 

[Estebonrober]

Where, how? Some law? Some court ruling? Who is arguing anywhere that women can't or shouldn't have equal rights?

The entire southeast, every title nine program, equal pay for the same job is still an issue