Should Tookie Williams get clemency?

[The Yankee]

We release him he'll be back in the game in no less than a week.

How? He would still be in jail.

 

[blindside]

If the law states that he should be executed for mudering four people then he should. Simple as that. Plus it doesn't help that he formed the Crips which has led to who knows how many thousands of deaths and lives ruined.

 

[DBear]

How? He would still be in jail.

After killing some more people. DUH!

 

[MobBoss]

After killing some more people. DUH!

Just so you understand the arguement a bit more. Clemancy means he would not be executed, but would continue to serve a life sentence without parole.

He wouldnt get out. But giving him a life sentence does nothing for the grief of the people he has killed. If killing him gives them closure then so be it.

 

[Rhymes]

If anything, he should be killed.

Now before somebody comes up to me and says, BUT IF U KILL A KILLER, THEN UR A KILLER LOL!!!1!!!!1, think about the people whose lives came to an abrupt halt for no reason at all.

Just tell me what you think anybody will gain out of killing this guy? And try not to answer with another question please.

 

[CurtSibling]

And how many do-gooder, anti-death penalty people will be happy to pay for his dinner and board?

I bet if he wanted to move next door to any of our moral minnows here, they would be up in arms.

PS
Letting this criminal off the hook is an insult to the people he killed.

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[Rhymes]

And how many do-gooder, anti-death penalty people will be happy to pay for his dinner and board?

I bet if he wanted to move next door to any of our moral minnows here, they would be up in arms.

PS
Letting this criminal off the hook is an insult to the people he killed.

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We'r not talking about releasing him, but about giving him life sentence instead of death sentence. I'de be against it if they wanted to release him.

 

[downtown]

sounds like some people didnt read the freaking article. they're not going to release him. they're going to NOT KILL HIM. he's staying in jail the rest of his life.

I think that this guy can still do some good for the world...help keep kids out of gangs and whatnot. he's still being punished for the rest of his life. We ought to spare his

 

[downtown]

And how many do-gooder, anti-death penalty people will be happy to pay for his dinner and board?

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well, his state has been doing it for what, 20 years? thats jail for you bub. price of fighting crime

 

[CurtSibling]

We'r not talking about releasing him, but about giving him life sentence instead of death sentence. I'de be against it if they wanted to release him.

And do you also worry about the hundreds of innocent
people who died in the time it took me to type this message?

If not, why do you care about this random person?
Perhap because the camera is on him???

The other people dying right now in the Sudan, Iraq
or North Korea are dying just as surely, and more unjustly...

Explain your fixation with this one man?

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[downtown]

After killing some more people. DUH!

he's never going to leave jail. thats not what clemency means. DUH

 

[CurtSibling]

well, his state has been doing it for what, 20 years? thats jail for you bub. price of fighting crime

A bullet and incinerator is far cheaper in the long run.

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[Rhymes]

And do you also worry about the hundreds of innocent
people who died in the time it took me to type this message?

If not, why do you care about this random person?
Perhap because the camera is on him???

The other people dying right now in the Sudan, Iraq
or North Korea are dying just as surely, and more unjustly...

Explain your fixation with this one man?

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Its not a question of caring or not caring. In fact if I cared, I,de care a lot more about an innocent dying of hunger then about a murderer.

The question is about my opinion on a specific case. If you take the specific case of a child dying of hunger somewhere, my opinion is that there is nothing we can do about it, but that we should try to prevent it from happening again. How to achieve that is another question though.

If we talk about a murderer sentenced to death, my opinion is that killing him wont bring anything good to anyone, and it will cost a lot to the state, maybe even more then if we leave him alive in prison.

I dont care about people I dont know and people that I cant possibly affect. But i do have opinions when you talk to me about a specific case.

 

[CurtSibling]

That is a fair enough explanation.

I only care that this guy gets his just punishement, but knowing the law - He won't...

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[Trafalgar]

Too much money, too much time, and too much debate are spent on people like him.

 

[downtown]

A bullet and incinerator is far cheaper in the long run.

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I dunno bout anywhere else, but here in the states, its more expensive to try for the death penalty.

 

[MobBoss]

I say let the families of the people he kill decide. If they see it within their heart to forgive him and give him clemancy then ok.....otherwise lets give those folks some closure and cap his ass.

 

[bhsup]

I say let the families of the people he kill decide. If they see it within their heart to forgive him and give him clemancy then ok.....otherwise lets give those folks some closure and cap his ass.

I already mentioned what one of the victims' family members wants done...

I don't know if this will influence anybody, but the brother of one of the people he killed lives in Kansas and his story was in the Kansas City Star earlier in the week. The brother personally wrote the Governor and asked him that clemency be denied.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/front/13229280.htm

 

[The Yankee]

I would imagine that the opinions of the families of the victims would be a part of any hearing. Whether that would be the only thing considered is another story.

 

[Aramazd]

I dunno bout anywhere else, but here in the states, its more expensive to try for the death penalty.

True, however it's not the cost of killing the person per se, but the cost of many appeals the convicted killer gets to reduce his sentence.

The law says he should die. So if he gets off the hook for writing kids books where do we draw the line, and why this guy? Many people who have done less than him have become "reformed".