Sid Meier's Civilization Chronicles Announced

[Rob (R8XFT)]

I also agree with Bjornlo about the "modder's update" - it wouldn't even need the scenarios for me to get it. The increase in the "pool" of civs to choose from and increased culture groups would be great; maybe an extra trait or two...okay, I won't repeat myself, I said all this a few posts ago!!

I know that there's as much chance of a patch for Civ III happening as a cat winning "best pedigree" at Crufts - but please please listen to us and give Civ III a major boost in the arm.

Talking economically, you're hoping to make a profit from the sale of Chronicles, which is fair enough. Just think how many more units that you'd have sold at $69 if it had something the public really wanted - i.e. an updated Civ III?

 

[2K_jason]

Talking economically, you're hoping to make a profit from the sale of Chronicles, which is fair enough. Just think how many more units that you'd have sold at $69 if it had something the public really wanted - i.e. an updated Civ III?

I think you greatly misunderstand my role in this sort of thing. I have absolutely no say in whether or not there is ever any update to Civ 3. All I did was compile the set from existing material and work on getting the new stuff (DVD, tabletop game, book, etc) together.

I appreciate the pleas, and I know you're all very passionate about this. But really, it's not my call.

 

[I_batman]

I think you greatly misunderstand my role in this sort of thing. I have absolutely no say in whether or not there is ever any update to Civ 3. All I did was compile the set from existing material and work on getting the new stuff (DVD, tabletop game, book, etc) together.

I appreciate the pleas, and I know you're all very passionate about this. But really, it's not my call.

Yes, I think most of us do understand that you are not sitting in the office where these decisions are made.

I do have one queston for you though, even though I don't think you have the answer.

The Take-Two web site shows a mailing address in New York.
Would a mailed letter to that address get forwarded to the attention of someone at Take-Two who makes that kind of decision?

 

[2K_jason]

The Take-Two web site shows a mailing address in New York.
Would a mailed letter to that address get forwarded to the attention of someone at Take-Two who makes that kind of decision?

It would probably go to me, actually. And then I would hand it off to someone higher up.

I can't say that it will make a huge difference, but it can't hurt. Just be civil about it.

 

[I_batman]

It would probably go to me, actually. And then I would hand it off to someone higher up.

I can't say that it will make a huge difference, but it can't hurt. Just be civil about it.

Thanks Jason.

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

Thanks again for all your responses, Jason. We could write to your offices in the USA, but I wondered if we started an online petition in the Civ 3 C&C forum and got a number of people signing up, whether or not you'd be able to point those colleagues in the direction of the petition?

If anything, it would indicate how many people actually would want an improved editor. For all you know from this thread, it could be about half-a-dozen modders!

 

[2K_jason]

Thanks again for all your responses, Jason. We could write to your offices in the USA, but I wondered if we started an online petition in the Civ 3 C&C forum and got a number of people signing up, whether or not you'd be able to point those colleagues in the direction of the petition?

If anything, it would indicate how many people actually would want an improved editor. For all you know from this thread, it could be about half-a-dozen modders!

Sure...if there's a petition, I'll point people towards it.

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

Sure...if there's a petition, I'll point people towards it.

Thank-you. That is much appreciated!!

Update: the petition thread is here.

 

[Civinator]

2K_jason, thank you for having an open ear for us.

 

[vingrjoe]

Jason, I want to apologize to you for venting my frustration over Firaxis/Take2's decison at not upgrading Civ3, and directing my anger at you personally. I am fully aware you are not responsible for their choices, and are just someone trying to do your job and earn a living. I still am disappointed and frustrated, but it is over the decisons made by the big guys, not you.

I again thank you for being honest and direct with us in regards to answering our questions. I also want to thank you for being willing to point anyone with sway at TakeTwo/Firaxis to any petitions for a Civ3 update/upgrade.

 

[MaXXXXXuM]

Ugg, I think im also gonna wait for the next chronicles pack. The fact that this isnt really a "complete" set just makes me feel like I would be throwing $$$ to the wind.

-Chris

 

[2K_jason]

Jason, I want to apologize to you for venting my frustration over Firaxis/Take2's decison at not upgrading Civ3, and directing my anger at you personally. I am fully aware you are not responsible for their choices, and are just someone trying to do your job and earn a living. I still am disappointed and frustrated, but it is over the decisons made by the big guys, not you.

I again thank you for being honest and direct with us in regards to answering our questions. I also want to thank you for being willing to point anyone with sway at TakeTwo/Firaxis to any petitions for a Civ3 update/upgrade.

That's okay, no offense taken.

We do pay attention to these forums, even if we don't post very often.

 

[Steph]

2k_Jason, a question for you.

I understand that you cannot release the source code because of some copyright issue.

I was wondering if something like what was done for Steel Panthers could happen, or is it a completly loony idea.

Would it be possible to "transfer" the source code to a few selected programmer - modders, with all the necessary NDA?

They could improve a few things, add a few options, correct some minors bugs, and release it on the internet, but as compiled modder expansion, with the necessary protection so it runs only if you own the Civ3 CD ROM.

It would not cost you to much, as you won't have to take time doing it, just perhaps answers a few questions from time to time.

Could it be possible? Or should I abandon all hope of finishing my mod, and work full time on SSS?

 

[Mirc]

In my opinion, though I'm not at all familiar with copyright issues, I think that Steph's idea is a very good way to avoid any problems and a possible (maybe best) solution for opening new horizons in the world of Civ3 modding.

 

[Antoninus]

I finally got around to picking up the Chronicles boxed set. For those of you who are on the fence, consider this:

If you're like me, and didn't discover Civ until Civ III, you won't be disappointed by this set. Its so cool discovering how the original Civ was 90% gameplay, 10% graphics. It also reminds you what programs looked and acted like at the birth of our good friend, the personal computer. I'm playing a space race game from each version of the game, in chron order, just to see the overall evolution of the series. I'm actually gaining a better understanding of irrigating tiles and balancing food with production, and I'm getting that from the older games! The city screen in Civ IV makes so much more sense to me now.

If you've been with the series since the original Civ in 1991, then this is an excellent box set to keep just as an archive for your computer.

So even though I already own Civ III and IV, this was the best game I've purchased in a long time. I figure its my small way of supporting the enablers of my civaddiction. I blame you, Jason, and thank you in the same breath.

So pick one up, or start dropping your Christmas present hints.

And "no," I am not a Firaxis employee, although I play one on TV.

 

[Bluemofia]

It's out already?!?!

Note to self. Go and buy one ASAP.