Small Observations General Thread (things not worth separate threads)

[Zaarin]

I don't know if this has been pointed out elsewhere, but the Mortuary Tomb unique building for Egypt has the descriptor "Ageless" in the description; this implies that some buildings may become obsolete or get destroyed upon advancing to a new Age.

It would be interesting to see what later-Age settlement would look like. In previous Civs, even when founding a city in the Modern Era you had to go through the motions of building Monuments and Colosseums. If these buildings are obsolete in later Ages in Civ7, that implies new cities will have a different building pathway. Maybe later cities already start with some default buildings? Do obsolete buildings in older cities get automatically upgraded to their newer versions or do you have to do that manually?

From what I've read/heard, when you advance in age, all non-ageless buildings lose their yields and have to be built over with new buildings and districts. The economic golden age policy seems to imply some cities may also revert to towns on aging up, but it's unclear.

 

[AriochIV]

From what I've read/heard, when you advance in age, all non-ageless buildings lose their yields and have to be built over with new buildings and districts. The economic golden age policy seems to imply some cities may also revert to towns on aging up, but it's unclear.

If true, that would mean that your city yields crash at the start of each Age, which sounds kind of ridiculous.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

If true, that would mean that your city yields crash at the start of each Age, which sounds kind of ridiculous.

The costs might crash too though . . . who knows?

 

[Zaarin]

If true, that would mean that your city yields crash at the start of each Age, which sounds kind of ridiculous.

I noticed the Granary was described as "Persistent" (how that contrasts with "Ageless," I don't know) so it may not be all yields, but it sounds like it will definitely be a setback.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

If true, that would mean that your city yields crash at the start of each Age, which sounds kind of ridiculous.

I suspect there's little continuity between ages. You're a new civ building on the ashes of a fallen world. The old tech tree is gone and you start on relatively equal footing with your neighbors regardless of whether you or they were snowballing. There are new mechanics to deal with and a bigger world to explore.

That's why they consider it three games in one.

 

[thecrazyscot]

Yeah, there are so many unknowns about what happens with an Age Transition and what the start of the next age looks like.

We do know for certain that doing well in the previous Age (unlocking a lot of Legacy Points) positions you advantageously for the next Age...aka an "Advanced Start" with extra gold, techs/civics, population, units, buildings, and extra cities....whatever that means. Just how clean does the slate get wiped??

Itching to get to the next gameplay demo - I really hope they show a full Age Transition from Antiquity to Exploration at least. I'm highly intrigued by it but a little wary of how they are going to balance things.

 

[Zaarin]

I really hope they show a full Age Transition from Antiquity to Exploration at least.

It sounded like that was the intent.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

So is Civ7 "town" comparable to civ3 colony, only more useful and important?

 

[AriochIV]

So is Civ7 "town" comparable to civ3 colony, only more useful and important?

It appears that the major difference in a Town is that it converts its yields (Hammers, at least) to Gold, has no production queue but can buy items with Gold.

Also, Augustus' bonus ability allows Culture buildings to be purchased in Towns, implying that this is something you can't normally do. So there are probably restrictions on what a Town can buy.

 

[Leefizzy]

So is Civ7 "town" comparable to civ3 colony, only more useful and important?

Seemed like a hybrid of unique mechanics that civ-like games have tried in the past few years
Towns+Vassals from Millennia
Outposts from Humankind
Feeder Cities from Stellaris/Endless Space 2/Imperator or Feeder Nations from Victoria2/3?

A civ3 colony would've been pretty badass in 4/5/6 ngl, I only spammed the japan scenario back when I was a kid for Civ3 so I don't remember much.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Seemed like a hybrid of unique mechanics that civ-like games have tried in the past few years
Towns+Vassals from Millennia
Outposts from Humankind
Feeder Cities from Stellaris/Endless Space 2/Imperator or Feeder Nations from Victoria2/3?

A civ3 colony would've been pretty badass in 4/5/6 ngl, I only spammed the japan scenario back when I was a kid for Civ3 so I don't remember much.

It has a healthy dose of Civ V puppet cities too.

 

[Leefizzy]

It has a healthy dose of Civ V puppet cities too.

Ye

 

[Haig]

The fortifications the unis build look very cool, I really hope that later era units build trenches/barbed wire.

 

[UncivilizedGuy]

I believe in one of the YouTube videos I watched it was explained that Building obsolescence doesn't remove all yields. I think Quill18 explained that

 

[AriochIV]

There's a bullet point in PCGamer's preview that answers the question about what happens to Age-obsolete buildings:

• When you enter a new age, old buildings lose their special effects and adjacency bonuses, encouraging you to replace them with new buildings

This makes a lot more sense. Losing all your yields in every city at the start of each Age would be catastrophic.

 

[IdiotStyle]

 

[ggmoyang]

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Now I see what 'choices during a Celebration' means. It's the reward choice for the 'we love the (leader) day.'

This article wrote he got 'we love the tyrant day' and given the choice of +20% science and +30% unit production bonus, but that's because he chose Despotism.
BTW you get celebration by filling local happiness meter.

 

[AriochIV]

If all the Government does is give a choice of bonuses during a Celebration... what a strange commentary on society.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

If all the Government does is give a choice of bonuses during a Celebration... what a strange commentary on society.

I guess that's why they call them political parties

 

[pokiehl]

Is there any imagery of the government policy card screen?