Sons of Mars II

Fabricate Claims on Centaurium. OOC: Dude. Really? Don't claim right in the middle of three land cramped nations.

Umm... Centaurium is nowhere near you, and likely in this point in History, you don't know them.
 
Oh? How so? By going around the tip of South Africa? Or through the Suez Canal that does not exist and shall not exist for thousands of years

no. we will simply stop by at the westernmost province of echinda, which as you can see pokes out to the central Mediterranean.

Is Spain or Albania religious? Or does this constitute as a cassus belli?

spain does not yet have a religion.
 
no. we will simply stop by at the westernmost province of echinda, which as you can see pokes out to the central Mediterranean.

A victory for Albania for we dictate where thou goes anyway.


spain does not yet have a religion.

On the other hand, Albania has the oddest religions on the planet.
 
A victory for Albania for we dictate where thou goes anyway.

yes, its your victory. however, be careful. your state may or may not stand the test of time. i hope it falls to Echinda, honestly.
 
yes, its your victory. however, be careful. your state may or may not stand the test of time. i hope it falls to Echinda, honestly.

Foolish Spaniards, thinking that Albania lacks allies ourselves.
 
Heresy, how dare you hope a human civilization will fall to weird alien beings...

better Echinda transform the Albanian empire into an alien parking lot than me take it and organize it as the Byzantine Empire.

which one is the worse option?
 
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Religion of Albania


The Peacock Angel


The Peacock Angel represents destruction, creation, and the Eternal Cycle that creates the beautiful process. The Peacock Angel can be either depicted as feminine of masculine but never androgynous. The Eternal Cycle reflects simply that life, the world, and the universe will eventually all die, collapse, and be used to create new life, a new world, and a new world. The Peacock Angel is the Progenitor of all the Gods and Goddess in the Albanian Pantheon.

Death Worshippers

Worship the "destruction" half of the Eternal Cycle in the sense that they believe that the Arrow of Time, the marker on the Eternal Cycle that shows which stage of reality is entering, leaving, etc. (like a clock) will one day snap at some point in the Destruction Cycle, throwing the universe and Allverse into an endless period of decay and destruction. Some Death Worshippers believe that the Snapping of the Time Arrow will be an "Ending" event on its own while many Death Worshippers believe that the Snapping won't be profound but it's effects will be. Plague, endless and destructive war, and other acts of destruction, they believe, will accompany the Grand Decline. The devastation caused by these events, they believe, will be irreparable.

Progenitors

Progenitors are the complete opposite of Death Worshippers. They believe the Time Arrow will occur in the Creation Cycle. While the Grand Decline would be marked with terrible war, disease, and disaster, the Ascension would be marked increasingly large cities and populations, great advances in sciences, and the eventual end of war itself. In short, the Ascension (Grand Ascension or "Gradual" Ascension to detractors) will result in eventual Utopia not just in the One Universe, but in the Allverse.

Everyone Else

Death Worshippers and Progenitors, together, make up only 20% of the population of Albania. The rest believe that the Eternal Cycle is truly Eternal.

Stay Tune: All the Other Gods and Goddess (at least, the important ones)
 
Albania should control Spain and Egypt, the worst outcome is Byzantine is formed.
 
Albania should control Spain and Egypt, the worst outcome is Byzantine is formed.

We have no qualms with Egypt. Just the uppity and backwards Iberians.

King Salazar I, Patriarch of the Church of Tirane
 
You should become Byzantine

i cant, i control the wrong area for it. and i don't have any interest in founding Byzantium in Spain.

oh and Spain welcomes any survivors from the Byzantine region to Spain.
 
i cant, i control the wrong area for it. and i don't have any interest in founding Byzantium in Spain.

oh and Spain welcomes any survivors from the Byzantine region to Spain.

Interesting that you can somehow get word to the even more backwards peasants living in Instanbul X's founding site. Especially since your messager would have to somehow cross all of Europe or get through the blockades before my army already in the region follows Imperial Order I and wipes the population off the face of the earth. In any case, you can have the remaining dozen or two survivors if there are even that much that escape the Byzantine War of Extermination.
 
Interesting that you can somehow get word to the even more backwards peasants living in Instanbul X's founding site. Especially since your messager would have to somehow cross all of Europe or get through the blockades before my army already in the region follows Imperial Order I and wipes the population off the face of the earth. In any case, you can have the remaining dozen or two survivors if there are even that much that escape the Byzantine War of Extermination.

its also interesting that you somehow knew where Madrid is, and how bad you think the Spanish architecture is. and you somehow got there with just a general direction.
 
its also interesting that you somehow knew where Madrid is, and how bad you think the Spanish architecture is. and you somehow got there with just a general direction.

I don't have to look at Madrid to know it, its people, and its architecture is inferior to the shacks the Albanian poor live in the countrysides.

-King Salazar I
 
I don't have to look at Madrid to know it, its people, and its architecture is inferior to the shacks the Albanian poor live in the countrysides.

-King Salazar I

well excuse me. we just founded the darn city last year (along with Lisbon and Barcelona, among others). yours is no better. in fact, we have houses that look better than your palace.
 
well excuse me. we just founded the darn city last year (along with Lisbon and Barcelona, among others). yours is no better. in fact, we have houses that look better than your palace.

Since it's painfully clear Spain ran out of witty comebacks on page one, changing subjects.

Who wants to learn more about the Tirane Pantheon? We'll gladly send priests to educate your scholars.
 
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