Soviet Russian General

[Wolfshanze]

This is a Modern Soviet Russian General (Warlord) Pack for Civ4.

Based on the default Modern General, I changed the colors from green to that of the soviet summer field uniform, I did what I could with the detail work, reworking the tunic with a new cut, field marshal's collar tabs, shoulder boards, sleeve chevrons & breast medals... the pants received red piping & a new buckle, while the cap got a new cocarde and red trim. All rank insignia is based on the Soviet Field Marshall.

New to v2.0, the selection has tripled in size... you now have THREE Russian Generals to choose from. Because there were so many uniforms and uniform combinations (and I made a rank-insignia error in v1.0), I decided to revisit this unit and redo my original and add two more based on some help from Walter Hawkwood.

New to v3.0, caucasian skin tones.

The three Generals now available are:
1) Summer Field Uniform (default) - light green with Marshall rank on shoulder boards.
2) Summer Field Uniform w/blue pants - same as above but with blue pants.
3) Early WWII Field Uniform - dark green tunic w/blue pants, Marshall rank on collar tabs and sleeve.

Also, all three models have had the riding crop deleted (symbol of the bourgeoisie west has been eliminated!)

Download Here
(Updated to v3.0 on 10-May-08)

Summer Field Uniform on left... Early WWII Field Uniform on right...

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All three Soviet Generals in the pack:

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Two Soviet Generals next to American and German Generals

 

[Xenomorph]

Cool. Hopefully someone will come forward and change the hat and gun (to a TT33).

 

[asioasioasio]

Lovely
Very good job

 

[Molybdeus]

The guy in that drawing has some freaky looking ears!

Nice work.

 

[Refar]

The skin is quite cool.

Have you checked if that rider's stick is a separate mesh ? if so i would suggest to delete it in NifScope - would make him a bit more different and that stick is not very soviet. (it's clearly a a sign of despised capitalistic bourgeoisie )

 

[asioasioasio]

(it's clearly a a sign of despised capitalistic bourgeoisie )

. Yes - sign of western imperialists

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

You've mixed together two distinct types of insignia - up to '42, Soviet officers wore sleeve chevrons and collar badges (like in the pics you posted), and after '42 they wore shoulder straps, that are not on the source pics (showing early uniform), but are present on your unit. They were never used simultaneously. To get yourself a pre-'42 general just remove shoulder straps. I've tried my hand at creating a post-'42 general, based on your skin. Hope it's all right with you.

I would also suggest using blue pants - they were used in all uniforms except summer field, and have a very distinct look, check here: http://rkkaww2.armchairgeneral.com/uniform/uniform2.htm

 

[Serastrasz]

Thats really nice work. But are you planning to make some modern Generals too? When there are Stealthbomber and Modern Tanks and so on these WWII generals look a bit deplaced.

 

[Wolfshanze]

Cool. Hopefully someone will come forward and change the hat and gun (to a TT33).

That would be nice... I'm no 3D modeler though, so someone else would have to just offer that service.

The skin is quite cool.

Have you checked if that rider's stick is a separate mesh ? if so i would suggest to delete it in NifScope - would make him a bit more different and that stick is not very soviet. (it's clearly a a sign of despised capitalistic bourgeoisie )

I once looked in Nifscope... it's a dark scary place for me... I can't make hide nor hair of it. Honest to God, the only two programs I work with is DDS Converter and Paint Shop Pro. If someone wants to ditch the capitalistic bourgeoisie riding crop in the Nif, I'll include the modified nif with the download... I want my communist general to have no associations with capitalistic bourgeoisie materialistic things!

Thats really nice work. But are you planning to make some modern Generals too? When there are Stealthbomber and Modern Tanks and so on these WWII generals look a bit deplaced.

Dang... THIS IS THE MODERN GENERAL.

There are only three "General/Warlord" slots one can make... by default they are Ancient, Medieval and Modern. If you ask me, there should be at least a fourth (Renaissance/Industrial), because the biggest mismatch I see in-game is running around with a Medieval general in armor, sword and shield leading musketmen and riflemen. It'd be nice to have some sort of "American Revolution" or "Napoleonic" style generals to lead troops through the industrial age. The "Modern" general doesn't show up until very late 19th century or early 20th.

So the way the game is setup... you only have one general type to go from the 20th century all the way till "whenever" the game ends. Personally, I see no problem basing the generals on WWII... I can't see a more "militaristic" time in the 20th or 21st century as WWII.

You've mixed together two distinct types of insignia - up to '42, Soviet officers wore sleeve chevrons and collar badges (like in the pics you posted), and after '42 they wore shoulder straps, that are not on the source pics (showing early uniform), but are present on your unit. They were never used simultaneously. To get yourself a pre-'42 general just remove shoulder straps. I've tried my hand at creating a post-'42 general, based on your skin. Hope it's all right with you.

I would also suggest using blue pants - they were used in all uniforms except summer field, and have a very distinct look.

Oh sure... the more the merrier... anyone is welcome to add/change/modify to their content. It's clear folks want more modern Generals, I don't know why it's either not been addressed or put on the back burner. The European Generals should be the easiest to do, and yet there's hardly any.

On the uniform itself... I was specific in the top post that I seriously considered doing the blue pants... but as you pointed out, they don't belong on the summer field uniform. I chose the summer field uniform because it's a considerably different color then the default dark green (or my German grey). You mentioned I made a uniform mistake on the insignia, but you've just mixed together two distinct types of uniforms (the blue pants don't go with the summer field uniform). Maybe I'll make another option with the dark green early uniform (with blue pants and no shoulder boards) and the late-war summer field uniform (without the sleeve insignia).

I'll see what I can cook up.

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

I once looked in Nifscope... it's a dark scary place for me... I can't make hide nor hair of it. Honest to God, the only two programs I work with is DDS Converter and Paint Shop Pro. If someone wants to ditch the capitalistic bourgeoisie riding crop in the Nif, I'll include the modified nif with the download... I want my communist general to have no associations with capitalistic bourgeoisie materialistic things!

Oh sure... the more the merrier... anyone is welcome to add/change/modify to their content. It's clear folks want more modern Generals, I don't know why it's either not been addressed or put on the back burner. The European Generals should be the easiest to do, and yet there's hardly any.

On the uniform itself... I was specific in the top post that I seriously considered doing the blue pants... but as you pointed out, they don't belong on the summer field uniform. I chose the summer field uniform because it's a considerably different color then the default dark green (or my German grey). You mentioned I made a uniform mistake on the insignia, but you've just mixed together two distinct types of uniforms (the blue pants don't go with the summer field uniform). Maybe I'll make another option with the dark green early uniform (with blue pants and no shoulder boards) and the late-war summer field uniform (without the sleeve insignia).

I'll see what I can cook up.

As far as the pants go, you are right when early, pre '42 uniform is concerned. From that time, blue pants were part of field uniform, see this picture: http://tewton.narod.ru/uniform-2/uniform-17-5.jpg.

I'd go for a dress uniform instead, but it very much requires non-symmetrical chest texture we can't get from this model. I may try to improve it further by cutting off the current hat in Blender and implementing a more proper one.

Oh, and I did remove the stick, feel free to use the model.

 

[Serastrasz]

Dang... THIS IS THE MODERN GENERAL.

I think, you got me wrong. WWII is not modern in my point of view, so i asked, if you are planning to make a "more modern" general unit looking like one of today.

 

[Wolfshanze]

I think, you got me wrong. WWII is not modern in my point of view, so i asked, if you are planning to make a "more modern" general unit looking like one of today.

I think you got me wrong. There are ONLY three ages for units... Ancient, Medieval and Modern.

Of the three (you do NOT have a fourth choice here), which would you consider WWII? Ancient, Medieval, or Modern?

I'm hoping you don't think of WWII as either an Ancient war or Medieval war... so that leaves you with "Modern".

There isn't a fourth option... so when I say "WWII Generals are Modern"... I mean what I say. In Civ4, there are only three options for Generals, and two of them are ruled out for anything prior to the 19th century. This means I get ONE GENERAL type for everything from the late 1800s through the 21st century. To me... WWII makes perfect sense and it definitely falls-into the Civ4 category of "Modern".

Personally, I've never attached a Warlord to a Stealth Bomber, so I'm not sure how bad that looks, but I don't see a problem with a WWII general leading modern troops (compared with a medieval soldier leading industrial age troops).

 

[Serastrasz]

No no i would simply use the modern one instead of the of wwii

 

[Wolfshanze]

No no i would simply use the modern one instead of the of wwii

But if a WWII general looks odd leading Stealth Bombers, wouldn't a "Modern" general look odd leading WWI Rifle and Infantrymen?

You can't have your cake and eat it too... which is why I choose to model WWII Generals... they're in the middle of the Civ4 "Modern" era for Warlords.

In short, I don't plan on doing "Modern" Generals... any I do will be sticking to WWII era.

 

[Serastrasz]

No problem was only a question, because my focus is on the later modern era

 

[Wolfshanze]

No problem was only a question, because my focus is on the later modern era

Well it's not that hard to reskin the default General. You might want to try it yourself... just use DDS converter and a paint program of your choice.

 

[kbrennan7654]

hmmmm... maybe u cud do cold war generals? right in the middle of WW2 and modern

just a thought to plz seratrasz

 

[Serastrasz]

Looks like theres someone, who would have use of it too^^ I´ll try it. Maybe it will work

 

[Wolfshanze]

Looks like theres someone, who would have use of it too^^ I´ll try it. Maybe it will work

Well, I'll be sticking to WWII generals, but if you want to try it, I usually search Google Images to find uniform websites that have close-up pics of uniforms, rank insignia, shoulder boards, cocades, etc, etc, then I just resize the pics and slap them on the Civ4 General skin. Works good for me. Give it a try.

 

[Bakuel]

The soviet skin looks very nice Wolfshanze!

You should look at some modeling tutorials though, nif viewer and blender are pretty easy once you understand them. Then you won't have to request things so much and make your own. It is very satisfying.