Intellectus
Chieftain
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- Sep 1, 2009
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I think that a totally outclassed unit should either fight to the death or be scared enough by the might of technology that they surrender and become workers.
Naval battles are worse. It took my submarine THREE ATTACKS to beat an enemy embarked worker. Huh?
Not g, because the boat is not in free fall And that formula can only give the energy if you integrate it ( yuck ) Better use the ol' Ec = 1/2*m*v^2R_rolo1, obviously you saw threads for Civ1, civ 2, civ 3, civ 4... and I guess it was repetitive...
But is not it the 1st thread about spear/tank for Civ 5 ?
Without such a thread, something would be missing.
Hum... for my part, I would love to have battles done in different interface, style Total War, or Sudden Strike : exact specifications would then be required, with the angle of shot, the velocity of the shell, its type... and the quality of steel used for armors! among many others...
but the ramming command would be nice.
What is the cinetic energy developped by a 40.000 tonnes ship at 40 km/h versus a 850 tonnes frigate at 15 km/h?
can't recall... do we use the formula x=1/2gt(2)+v(0)t+x(0) ?
Not g, because the boat is not in free fall And that formula can only give the energy if you integrate it ( yuck ) Better use the ol' Ec = 1/2*m*v^2
Ramming is a awfully inneficient way of dealing with naval warfare for a lot of reasons, being the major one the dificulty of correcting course by the ramming ship. It only works decently in ships in close range and with dificulty of manouver ( the good ol'Greco-Roman ships for a example ) . A battleship ramming a frigate would most likely end with the frigate making a last second manouver ( barring no wind , ofc ) and seeing the battleship passing 10-20 meters to the side.
About shootups ... well the battleship would probably win ... unless it was in the wrong side of the equator ( see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Falkland_Islands , where both sides had to make last hour corrections to the guns aim because it was calibrated for the Northern hemisphere , making that the shots suposedely aimed with precision were more that 100 m to the side ), where probably the frigate would be in advantage just because smaller range fire equals smaller need for correction
Well, actually it was a Longswordsman(!) that almost shot down my fighter (-2 dmg)!
Would Renaissance era cannons even dent a battleship though?
I killed a pikeman with a mech infantry today. The pikeman did 2 damage but it was hilarious how long the battle was. They just kept stabbing away for like 10 seconds, a valiant effort. My guess is several drivers laughed themselves to heart attacks as they mowed through the spears.
(...)
Civ has always needed a new value for modern units, namely tanks, mech infantry and steel naval units above ironclads, that gives them immunity to pre-infantry units.
Yeah it would suck for you if you were that behind in tech and getting attacked by them, but in reality it would suck just as much if your army consisted of 18th century riflemen vs enemy WW2 tanks, or you had sailing ships vs WW2 destroyers, subs and battleships.
There's times when I'd rather sacrifice gameplay for reality, when gameplay's depiction of reality is ridiculous. (...)
R_rolo1, obviously you saw threads for Civ1, civ 2, civ 3, civ 4... and I guess it was repetitive...
But is not it the 1st thread about spear/tank for Civ 5 ?
Without such a thread, something would be missing.
Hum... for my part, I would love to have battles done in different interface, style Total War, or Sudden Strike : exact specifications would then be required, with the angle of shot, the velocity of the shell, its type... and the quality of steel used for armors! among many others...
but the ramming command would be nice.
What is the cinetic energy developped by a 40.000 tonnes ship at 40 km/h versus a 850 tonnes frigate at 15 km/h?
can't recall... do we use the formula x=1/2gt(2)+v(0)t+x(0) ?
True Story. I was in afghanistan (US Army) I was the gunner in a armored personel carrier and we had a guy come out of an alley and try to stab a tire with a long stick, a spear if you will, but he didnt win, I threw a rock at him and we moved on but...SPEARS VS TANKS can happen in IRL.