What a silly argument. Heck, since I'm vulnerable somewhere anyway, I might as well just put my credit card number and password information right here in this post. It's something that other places collect anyhow. If I do what I can to minimize my exposure I'm just being a hypocrite--after all, I've bought something online before. I'm pretty sure that the people who argued against Steam for single player Civ said that it was an unnecessary additional layer of risk, not that if they don't use steam there is no risk. They are 100% correct on that front. You can't explain that little bit of truth away. My main issue here isn't even that the company was hacked--that happens. My job is in online fraud prevention, and I fully understand how these things work (I don't need any lessons, thanks.) Such things are a fact of life. However, I probably played civ (on Steam, of course) for about four or five hours since Sunday. I logged into Steam two or three times. The first time I heard about this was last night, from a third party. I logged into steam after reading this, and still there was nothing. I've logged into the email account that I have registered on Steam, and there is no message about this. I look at valvesoftware.com, and do not see anything listed on the main page or in their "news." There's only some information about new products I can buy. I look at the "NEWS" at steampowered.com. I see a sale for the new Elder Scrolls they listed this morning, but nothing of a breach. Oh, I see . . . there it is if I happen to want to look at the forums. I'm sure they decided that everyone who might be interested in this information log onto the forum before doing anything else. I'm sure that is what it is personally, but someone a little more cynical might thing that they were trying to sweep it under the rug. That said, at least they're getting around to it a little faster than some others have.