Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
Oh btw. Carolina Votes
Yes on Michigan
Yes on State Right's
Yes on Coat Trade.
Yes on Michigan
Yes on State Right's
Yes on Coat Trade.
stNNES2: StatesNES
- Thread starter North King
- Start date
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Regeneration In Process
From: Massachussets
To: Carolina
This is treachery! This is a war between the ENTIRE Union and the British Empire, and you want to trade with the Limeys, to sell them iron for them to make cannons with! You DARE drop out just like that, not caring for the solidarity of the Union! And then you say you will "gracefully" accept to grant us, your humble vassals, some help if we agree with you on a matter on which I will NEVER agree on! How should I tolerate this? How COULD I, or any other TRUE citizens of an American State tolerate this behavior?
From: Massachussets
To: All of the Union
It would seem that Carolina has decided to let its fellow states to the north fight alone, which means that it might as well secede from the Union. Let me ask you - is this Union a place for traitors? Where is our solidarity? Where is our alliance? Is USA a mere word now, that a state decides whether to fight in the war on our side or remain neutral? Why, soon Carolina will contemplate allying with the Limeys as well! Unless Carolina's governor remembers that despite being Carolinian, he is an American as well, we should do something serious about this TREACHERY!
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
Kentucky Orders *secret*
-Have my militia on high alert to defend Kentucky
-Spend 2000 dollars on industry(for fried chicken
)
-Vote Yes for the states entering Union and Coat Trade Bill, vote no for state's rights
-Export timber, and fur coats into Tennesee
-Export raw materials like lumber and furs into Carolina
-Continue project
-Have my militia on high alert to defend Kentucky
-Spend 2000 dollars on industry(for fried chicken
)-Vote Yes for the states entering Union and Coat Trade Bill, vote no for state's rights
-Export timber, and fur coats into Tennesee
-Export raw materials like lumber and furs into Carolina
-Continue project
Specialist290
Terracotta Statue Man
- Joined
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- 1,335
State: Tennessee
Player: Specialist290
Electoral votes: 4
Economy:
>Income: ?
>Expenses: ?
>Balance: ?
>Debt: ?
>Interest: ?
Trade:
>Imports: No trade as of yet
>Exports: No trade as of yet
>Balance: No trade as of yet
Armed forces: militia yet to be raised
Education: ?
Transportation: ?
Internal Security: ?
Industry: ?
Projects: None
Notes: Forests, with a lot of potential to expand. Also a small, but growing workforce.
ORDERS
-Recruit 5,000 men and use the remaining $1,000 to keep them trained.
-Begin cutting timber for export to the New England states. Also encourage the export of tobacco
-Votes:
Yes on McInley Bill
Yes on Coat Trade Bill
Yes to Mississippi
The Tennessee Daily
BRITAIN DECLARES WAR
Governor Calls for Volunteers
The British government has declared war on the United States over the issue of free commerce on the high seas, to put it shortly. In response to this, Gov. John Sevier has issued a call to arms. So far 5,000 men have volunteered for service in the state militia In addition to the cost of levying the troops, Governor Sevier has set aside $1,000 in funds for their training and equipment.
SLAVERY LEGALIZED
...With A Catch
In one of his more controversial acts, John Sevier has legalized the owning and trading of slaves in Tennessee. However, to regulate the slave trade in the state, Sevier has placed a high state tariff on importing slaves from foreign countries. He has also enacted a "5-slave" resolution stating that anyone holding more than 5 slaves in bondage will be taxed for each extra.
Opposition and Support
Despite the safeguards placed by the state to insure that Tennessee is not made economically dependent on slave labor, many people are still vocally opposed to Gov. Sevier's act. "This act is disgusting," one prominent abolitionist and TN resident announced. "Already our state has fallen into the clutches of evil." However, he seems to have ignored the fact that there are already several slaves and slaveholders in Tennessee.
"I, for one, am in favor of this," stated a state legislator. "The permission of our state to use the black man as a cheap source of labor will boost our tobacco and cotton output and allow more of those goods to be exported. This, in turn, will increase state revenue and bring more money into Tennessee."
The governor was not available for comment.
Sevier Opens Land
Other Acts In Review
Last week, Gov. Sevier passed a bill brought forward by the state legislation opening several acres of wilderness to settlement. The land will be sold to prospective buyers for 5 cents an acre.
Player: Specialist290
Electoral votes: 4
Economy:
>Income: ?
>Expenses: ?
>Balance: ?
>Debt: ?
>Interest: ?
Trade:
>Imports: No trade as of yet
>Exports: No trade as of yet
>Balance: No trade as of yet
Armed forces: militia yet to be raised
Education: ?
Transportation: ?
Internal Security: ?
Industry: ?
Projects: None
Notes: Forests, with a lot of potential to expand. Also a small, but growing workforce.
ORDERS
-Recruit 5,000 men and use the remaining $1,000 to keep them trained.
-Begin cutting timber for export to the New England states. Also encourage the export of tobacco
-Votes:
Yes on McInley Bill
Yes on Coat Trade Bill
Yes to Mississippi
The Tennessee Daily
BRITAIN DECLARES WAR
Governor Calls for Volunteers
The British government has declared war on the United States over the issue of free commerce on the high seas, to put it shortly. In response to this, Gov. John Sevier has issued a call to arms. So far 5,000 men have volunteered for service in the state militia In addition to the cost of levying the troops, Governor Sevier has set aside $1,000 in funds for their training and equipment.
SLAVERY LEGALIZED
...With A Catch
In one of his more controversial acts, John Sevier has legalized the owning and trading of slaves in Tennessee. However, to regulate the slave trade in the state, Sevier has placed a high state tariff on importing slaves from foreign countries. He has also enacted a "5-slave" resolution stating that anyone holding more than 5 slaves in bondage will be taxed for each extra.
Opposition and Support
Despite the safeguards placed by the state to insure that Tennessee is not made economically dependent on slave labor, many people are still vocally opposed to Gov. Sevier's act. "This act is disgusting," one prominent abolitionist and TN resident announced. "Already our state has fallen into the clutches of evil." However, he seems to have ignored the fact that there are already several slaves and slaveholders in Tennessee.
"I, for one, am in favor of this," stated a state legislator. "The permission of our state to use the black man as a cheap source of labor will boost our tobacco and cotton output and allow more of those goods to be exported. This, in turn, will increase state revenue and bring more money into Tennessee."
The governor was not available for comment.
Sevier Opens Land
Other Acts In Review
Last week, Gov. Sevier passed a bill brought forward by the state legislation opening several acres of wilderness to settlement. The land will be sold to prospective buyers for 5 cents an acre.
Specialist290
Terracotta Statue Man
- Joined
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- Messages
- 1,335
From: Tennessee
To: Carolina
As a fellow Southern state, we urge you to support the Union in the war against Britain.
To: Carolina
As a fellow Southern state, we urge you to support the Union in the war against Britain.
Thundercow
Destroyer of Galaxies
Governor Van der Ploeg, in an open letter (sent to other governors as well) to South Carolina:
"What new knavery is this? You declare neutrality in a war for our very freedom, then make your fulfillment of your duties dependent upon our accepting a highly divisive and unconstitutional bill. This is naked blackmail and we shall not stand for it. I, along with all flag-loving Americans, call upon you to do your proper duty."
Governor Van der Ploeg, in an op ed piece on the McKinley States' Rights Bill:
" . . . similar measures have oft been taken before in the supposed defense of "freedom and the constitution." Yet I say that these measures are not in support of the Constitution at all. The Constitution is a great document put forth to defend the rights of "We, the people." States' Rights is nothing but a legal fiction devised to protect the rights of Governors not "the People." Furthermore, for legal justification, see the Constitution. The "elastic clauses" make it clear that the responsibilities of state and federal government are flexible and meant to be changed, not to be ruled by ham-fisted absolute amendments.
". . . these measures would forever leave great Americans like John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, men of the people, forever impotent . . .
"I urge all peace and freedom loving Americans to vote against the States' Rights Act, especially at a time of national emergency when unity under the federal government is key."
"What new knavery is this? You declare neutrality in a war for our very freedom, then make your fulfillment of your duties dependent upon our accepting a highly divisive and unconstitutional bill. This is naked blackmail and we shall not stand for it. I, along with all flag-loving Americans, call upon you to do your proper duty."
Governor Van der Ploeg, in an op ed piece on the McKinley States' Rights Bill:
" . . . similar measures have oft been taken before in the supposed defense of "freedom and the constitution." Yet I say that these measures are not in support of the Constitution at all. The Constitution is a great document put forth to defend the rights of "We, the people." States' Rights is nothing but a legal fiction devised to protect the rights of Governors not "the People." Furthermore, for legal justification, see the Constitution. The "elastic clauses" make it clear that the responsibilities of state and federal government are flexible and meant to be changed, not to be ruled by ham-fisted absolute amendments.
". . . these measures would forever leave great Americans like John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, men of the people, forever impotent . . .
"I urge all peace and freedom loving Americans to vote against the States' Rights Act, especially at a time of national emergency when unity under the federal government is key."
JosefStalinator
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hmm well i still didnt increase any industry... even if i did put money into it...
JosefStalinator
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hmm i just relaized something.... I do beleive that North Carolinas purchase of florida is unconstitutional due to an article stating that no state has the right to make deals with foreign bodies (without approval from the federal government?). If somoene could find that article... im not exactly sure where to look, the constitution is pretty big
JosefStalinator
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ah i found it
Section 10
Clause 3: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
Section 10
Clause 3: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
Thundercow
Destroyer of Galaxies
OOC: It's probably still up to North King, since this is a very different constitution. We certainly are allowed to maintain armed forces on our own, it would seem.
Thundercow
Destroyer of Galaxies
Re: Overtures to France
"I believe in Washington's advice in his farewell address that we should avoid entangling alliances wherever possible. We should only appeal to French assistance if things look dire."
"I believe in Washington's advice in his farewell address that we should avoid entangling alliances wherever possible. We should only appeal to French assistance if things look dire."
OOC: Meh. I'm bored, so I'll make a few new orders.
- Start project "Puryst" for the purification and advance of the Maple Syrup Trade.
New Hampshire
Player: MSTK
Treasury: 1
Electoral votes: 4
Economy:
> Income: 17 (+5 Slavery)
> Expenses: 16
> Balance: +1
> Debt: 0
> Interest: 0
Trade:
>Imports: No trade as of yet
>Exports: No trade as of yet
>Balance: No trade as of yet
Armed forces: 5,000 Regulars (-3)
Education: 1
Transportation: 1
Internal Security: 4
Industry: 1
Projects: Puryst - "Purification and advance of the Maple Syrup Trade" (5 updates left)
Notes: Lots of timber ready to be cut. Maple Syrup, for what thats worth.
- Start project "Puryst" for the purification and advance of the Maple Syrup Trade.
New Hampshire
Player: MSTK
Treasury: 1
Electoral votes: 4
Economy:
> Income: 17 (+5 Slavery)
> Expenses: 16
> Balance: +1
> Debt: 0
> Interest: 0
Trade:
>Imports: No trade as of yet
>Exports: No trade as of yet
>Balance: No trade as of yet
Armed forces: 5,000 Regulars (-3)
Education: 1
Transportation: 1
Internal Security: 4
Industry: 1
Projects: Puryst - "Purification and advance of the Maple Syrup Trade" (5 updates left)
Notes: Lots of timber ready to be cut. Maple Syrup, for what thats worth.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
occ: Just to know isnt the constituion not all that it was in the RW, so let Nortth King allow it or not. Either way Spain treated with Carolina.
To Massachessetes (secret)
From Carolina
Carolinan troops are moving into an attack on the Bahamas. DO NOT CONSIDER ME ATTACKING THE UNION IN ANYWAY. The message about trade was a ruse to make the British lax in their security from the Carolinans. However Carolinan troops WILL NOT make any attempt to help you northners unless the State's Rights Bill passes both houses and becomes a law.
To Massachessetes (secret)
From Carolina
Carolinan troops are moving into an attack on the Bahamas. DO NOT CONSIDER ME ATTACKING THE UNION IN ANYWAY. The message about trade was a ruse to make the British lax in their security from the Carolinans. However Carolinan troops WILL NOT make any attempt to help you northners unless the State's Rights Bill passes both houses and becomes a law.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
Carolianan Govenor addresses the Union
Carolina if denied gains in North Flordia, or the right to posses the Carolinan military will not longer recognise the authority of Washington DC.
Carolina if denied gains in North Flordia, or the right to posses the Carolinan military will not longer recognise the authority of Washington DC.
JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
hmm so thres no constiution.. nm then, waht carolina is doing is legal
Times Union- the capital region's source for news
WAR WERE DECLARED
The United Kingdom has declared war on the United DStates. the states of Massechusetts, New Hampshire, New York and the territory of Michigan. The militias of all states have been fully activated. George Clinton is using emergency powers to raise an army to fight against the invaders. Fearing a navel assault, a navy will also be created.
SPENDING SLASHED
As need for a military rises, spending on education has been halved.
WEST POINT ACADAMY
Construction on West Point acdamay has begun as it will still act as a fort.
ORDERS:
-slash education spending by 3.
-hire 1,000 elite and 6,000 regular soldiers.
-build 40 reguar ships.
*secret*
-The 2,000 elite soldiers will man Ticondaroga and defend Montpiler in the north. The 5,000 conscripts will launch hit and run attacks on the northern British forces. If needed, the conscripts will join with the defenders.
-The 6,000 regular troops will defend Buffalo from attack. Set up forts and defenses as quickly as you can.
-1 Elite Pennsylvanian Regiment will head to Buffalo, the other to Montpilier.
-20 ships will guard New York Hatrbor and the Hudson from attack. Remember we still got West Point and forts left over after the revolutionary war along the udson
-20 ships will guard Buffalo harbor in Lake Erie.
*secret*
State: New York
Player: Warman17
Electoral votes: 17
Economy:
>Income: 32 (+5 trade)
>Expenses: 37(2 spent on project)
>Balance: 0
>Debt: 0
>Interest: 0
Trade:
>Imports: 2 (trade through NYC) (Tarrif on Connecticut Goods)
>Exports: 7 (food, timber, finished timber products, trade through NYC)
>Balance: 5
Armed forces: 2,000 elite, 6,000 regulars, 5,000 conscript, 40 regualr ships (-10)
Education: 3
Transportation: 9
Internal Security: 3
Industry: 10
Projects:Settling of Buffalo(will create the city Buffalo) (COMPLETE!)
West Point Acadamy(either troops more effective, or cost less. which ever makes more sense to you. maybe like 1 for 1000 elite, 1 for 3000 regular, 1 for 7500 conscript?)- $2,000
Notes: Timber, Huge Ports, good Farmland. A large population, potential for lots of immigration, and the workforce for much industry.
-vote yes on Michigan
-vote on Toledo going to Michigan
-vote yes on Ohio
-vote no on Missisippi.
-vote no on coat bill
-vote no on states rights which is unconstitutional and should actually be an amendment if anything.
-heavily tariff all Confederate goods. And when i say heavy i mean a 100% tax.
To Congress:
Please send Federal troops to fight in New York. If the British gain control of thre Hudson it would split the union in two.
WAR WERE DECLARED
The United Kingdom has declared war on the United DStates. the states of Massechusetts, New Hampshire, New York and the territory of Michigan. The militias of all states have been fully activated. George Clinton is using emergency powers to raise an army to fight against the invaders. Fearing a navel assault, a navy will also be created.
SPENDING SLASHED
As need for a military rises, spending on education has been halved.
WEST POINT ACADAMY
Construction on West Point acdamay has begun as it will still act as a fort.
ORDERS:
-slash education spending by 3.
-hire 1,000 elite and 6,000 regular soldiers.
-build 40 reguar ships.
*secret*
-The 2,000 elite soldiers will man Ticondaroga and defend Montpiler in the north. The 5,000 conscripts will launch hit and run attacks on the northern British forces. If needed, the conscripts will join with the defenders.
-The 6,000 regular troops will defend Buffalo from attack. Set up forts and defenses as quickly as you can.
-1 Elite Pennsylvanian Regiment will head to Buffalo, the other to Montpilier.
-20 ships will guard New York Hatrbor and the Hudson from attack. Remember we still got West Point and forts left over after the revolutionary war along the udson
-20 ships will guard Buffalo harbor in Lake Erie.
*secret*
State: New York
Player: Warman17
Electoral votes: 17
Economy:
>Income: 32 (+5 trade)
>Expenses: 37(2 spent on project)
>Balance: 0
>Debt: 0
>Interest: 0
Trade:
>Imports: 2 (trade through NYC) (Tarrif on Connecticut Goods)
>Exports: 7 (food, timber, finished timber products, trade through NYC)
>Balance: 5
Armed forces: 2,000 elite, 6,000 regulars, 5,000 conscript, 40 regualr ships (-10)
Education: 3
Transportation: 9
Internal Security: 3
Industry: 10
Projects:Settling of Buffalo(will create the city Buffalo) (COMPLETE!)
West Point Acadamy(either troops more effective, or cost less. which ever makes more sense to you. maybe like 1 for 1000 elite, 1 for 3000 regular, 1 for 7500 conscript?)- $2,000
Notes: Timber, Huge Ports, good Farmland. A large population, potential for lots of immigration, and the workforce for much industry.
-vote yes on Michigan
-vote on Toledo going to Michigan
-vote yes on Ohio
-vote no on Missisippi.
-vote no on coat bill
-vote no on states rights which is unconstitutional and should actually be an amendment if anything.
-heavily tariff all Confederate goods. And when i say heavy i mean a 100% tax.
To Congress:
Please send Federal troops to fight in New York. If the British gain control of thre Hudson it would split the union in two.
JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
your no vote on mississipii is an obvious attempt to prevent aniother southern slave state from entering the union, Virginia is outraged
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
vote no on Michigan
-Vote on Toledo going to Carolina
-vote no on Ohio
-vote yes on Missisippi.
-Vote on Toledo going to Carolina
-vote no on Ohio
-vote yes on Missisippi.
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