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Insane_Panda said:
That they are big cities.
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That they are big cities.
das said:Don't worry, I will ALWAYS find something to do with my money.Besides, I conquered THREE cities with one more submitting without me even asking them to. One'd think that would make me richer.
of course not. wars are expenise; pack animals, supplies, food, labour; it all requires money; soem areas lend themselves better to being abel to achive conquest; mesoptamia, and Egypt, and mos tplaces that either support large scal agriculture, or have a more agreeable climate are soem of them; Syria however, is not one of thos eplaces that makes itself availible to make easy war on its nighrbors, as history has fleshed out more then a few times; syria is ****e to make an empire based
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Oh and NK what is my capital city's name since it is not Djibouti. Damot?
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are those lower Egyptian colonies near me?
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Insane_Panda said:
Sure.
Emu: No, Phonecian, if you're thinking of what I'm thinking of.
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im thinking of carthage, leptis magna and cyrene but they have no stats so assumed them colonies
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Yup. Phoenecian.
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So anyway, guys, if you want an update before next monday, send orders by wednesday, preferably on tuesday.
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Ja. Mein orders kommen sie morgen!
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Ich kann nicht sprechen Deutsches, Panda.
Insane_Panda
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Noch kann ich, Herr Nord Konug!
das
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Bah! NK said that my land is green and rich, so yes we can do all that. Besides, he DID say we got "enriched". So...
NK NK gimme an eco! Gimme an eco!
(No, really, I need to know if I get any changes to the stats before I send orders)
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das said:
North king is also the person that allowed a wealthy urban civilization to develope in the middle of the steppes made up of deserts....
anyways, nk won't be awake until ur asleep kinda das
das
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From "50 Outstanding Campaigns" of the Ancient World:
"Chapter 2: Campaigns of Baal-Maluk Yusuf Midbari
[...]
A variety of sources, as well as some evidence, points out that in 1939 OE [Old Era, the system used by the scientific world today] the great campaigns of the Syrian Baal-Maluk Yusuf Midbari begun.
The first campaign was the conquest of Phoenicea. It is very important to study it, as it bore the marks of Syria's future approach to conquest. The army (estimated by specialists to be of four thousand warriors, including spearmen, arcehrs and charioteers - this was by the time's standards no small force) was built into columns and led by the Baal-Maluk himself in a forced march to the northernmost Phoenicean city - Antigonela. The city's ruler, Hanno, was offered comparatively generous terms, as contrasted by the enslavement of the population and the destruction of the city in case he rejected those terms; which was, incidentally, what he did. Not much is known about the siege itself, but from what we know of other Syrian sieges, we can suppose that the city was surrounded by a half-circle (being a coastal city) and the Syrians then cut down the nearby Phoenicean cedars for siege weapons and broke through, perhaps using a diversion to distract the enemy but probably simply ramming their way into the city. Afterwards, the rapid-moving chariots were used to break the enemy ranks, something exploited by the Syrian spearmen (who were used in those times as a main melee fighting force rather then an anti-cavalry defense force), who destroyed the urban Phoenicean defenders as a fighting force with ease. The king's fate is not recorded, or at least no information about it reached us. The city was destroyed (and later rebuilt), the population was enslaved.
The people of Sidon were the next to be faced with the sudden appearence of a huge Syrian army at their doorsteps. Their king (whose name remains unknown) was more reasonable; upon hearing of the sad fate of Antigonela, he gave up without a fight, and thus continued to rule in his city - only now as more of a satrap.
Then came the greatest (and best-documented) battle of the campaign. The great Syrian army marched to the island-city of Tyre. The island on which it was situated was not too far from the mainland, but the water between them proved a mighty wall indeed. But even here, the Syrian ingenuity did not fail them. They begun building a great mole in order to get across to the proud city itself. The Tyreans sent out a fleet of some galleys to attack the construction works, and managed to stop them. But at that point, it would seem that Baal-Maluk equipped the Antigonelan fleet to great effect, destroying the Tyrean fleet. And as the mole was finished, the same thing as with Antigonela itself happened, only this time most sources have all the gruesome details on the deaths of King Hiram and his family.
So overawed were the Petrans at the fall of Tyre that they joined the Syrian Malukate without a fight.
As the conquest of Phoenicea was finished, Syria was greatly strengthened and enriched. But Baal-Maluk Yusuf Midbari was not yet satisfied with his realm..."
"Chapter 2: Campaigns of Baal-Maluk Yusuf Midbari
[...]
A variety of sources, as well as some evidence, points out that in 1939 OE [Old Era, the system used by the scientific world today] the great campaigns of the Syrian Baal-Maluk Yusuf Midbari begun.
The first campaign was the conquest of Phoenicea. It is very important to study it, as it bore the marks of Syria's future approach to conquest. The army (estimated by specialists to be of four thousand warriors, including spearmen, arcehrs and charioteers - this was by the time's standards no small force) was built into columns and led by the Baal-Maluk himself in a forced march to the northernmost Phoenicean city - Antigonela. The city's ruler, Hanno, was offered comparatively generous terms, as contrasted by the enslavement of the population and the destruction of the city in case he rejected those terms; which was, incidentally, what he did. Not much is known about the siege itself, but from what we know of other Syrian sieges, we can suppose that the city was surrounded by a half-circle (being a coastal city) and the Syrians then cut down the nearby Phoenicean cedars for siege weapons and broke through, perhaps using a diversion to distract the enemy but probably simply ramming their way into the city. Afterwards, the rapid-moving chariots were used to break the enemy ranks, something exploited by the Syrian spearmen (who were used in those times as a main melee fighting force rather then an anti-cavalry defense force), who destroyed the urban Phoenicean defenders as a fighting force with ease. The king's fate is not recorded, or at least no information about it reached us. The city was destroyed (and later rebuilt), the population was enslaved.
The people of Sidon were the next to be faced with the sudden appearence of a huge Syrian army at their doorsteps. Their king (whose name remains unknown) was more reasonable; upon hearing of the sad fate of Antigonela, he gave up without a fight, and thus continued to rule in his city - only now as more of a satrap.
Then came the greatest (and best-documented) battle of the campaign. The great Syrian army marched to the island-city of Tyre. The island on which it was situated was not too far from the mainland, but the water between them proved a mighty wall indeed. But even here, the Syrian ingenuity did not fail them. They begun building a great mole in order to get across to the proud city itself. The Tyreans sent out a fleet of some galleys to attack the construction works, and managed to stop them. But at that point, it would seem that Baal-Maluk equipped the Antigonelan fleet to great effect, destroying the Tyrean fleet. And as the mole was finished, the same thing as with Antigonela itself happened, only this time most sources have all the gruesome details on the deaths of King Hiram and his family.
So overawed were the Petrans at the fall of Tyre that they joined the Syrian Malukate without a fight.
As the conquest of Phoenicea was finished, Syria was greatly strengthened and enriched. But Baal-Maluk Yusuf Midbari was not yet satisfied with his realm..."
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das said:Bah! NK said that my land is green and rich, so yes we can do all that. Besides, he DID say we got "enriched". So...
NK NK gimme an eco! Gimme an eco!
(No, really, I need to know if I get any changes to the stats before I send orders)
It's all relative. No eco this turn.
Alex: The problem is not urban cities springing up there. it's the fact that nomads founded those cities which is unrealistic; in fact, your argument of that they appeared in the desert is implausible is itself bull, for many of the greatest cities of the ancient world sprung up in desert, many of the modern cities are in the desert; climate has little enough effect on a city's growth as long as the people have the tech, the will, water, and a reason to build it.
Edit: Heck, the land you live in (IIRC) was called the Great American Desert before someone invented a good plow...
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