Strategy Discussion and Guides

[iOnlySignIn]

You don't need to attack either Rome or Greece to win UHV as Persia. Usually I'm bff with Greece, trading Techs and OBing with them to support their war against Rome.

What is more important is to kill of Babylon & Egypt asap before Rome declares on them, so that Rome gets 2 fewer stacks of conquerors. If Rome only gets 1 or 2 stacks of conquerors, a Persian-supported Greece is enough to stop them.

I've seen AI Persia take Rome. But I'd much rather invade India to get more Silk Route resources. The Persian UB helps against the Jungles and Floodplains of India, Mesopotamia, and Egypt.

 

[mykeedee]

I just ran another game with Persia where I rushed Rome almost immediately (Babylon and Phoenicia went in about 5 turns) I razed Roma and Vibo Valentina but didn't have enough troops to finish the job, being left with only 2 cities Caesar decided to DoW on everyone he could which worked out remarkably well for him. This usually wouldn't be a problem but the massive barb hordes in Arabia became agressive way earlier than usual and now i'm even more screwed than the last game.

@iOnlySignIn how are you buddies with Greece when they get conquerors on you?

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

I just ran another game with Persia where I rushed Rome almost immediately (Babylon and Phoenicia went in about 5 turns) I razed Roma and Vibo Valentina but didn't have enough troops to finish the job, being left with only 2 cities Caesar decided to DoW on everyone he could which worked out remarkably well for him. This usually wouldn't be a problem but the massive barb hordes in Arabia became agressive way earlier than usual and now i'm even more screwed than the last game.

@iOnlySignIn how are you buddies with Greece when they get conquerors on you?

He has enough time to raise his Power rating on his speed setting to discourage them from DoWing him.
Anyways, if you can bribe the other civs to DoW Rome instead of Rome DoWing them, you can help to reduce that kind of situation.
You should not raze Rome. Keep Rome, raze everything else.
It will help to keep Rome because you can "refuel" quicker there and possibly shuttle off 1 or 2 troops to the front from Rome if you're fast enough.
Personally, after playing a number of Persia games, I do not believe that there can be any peace with Greece, but this is on Normal speed.
They DO get conquerors on you after all, and I always find that if I do not DoW them, they will inevitably DoW me.
I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY doubt the veracity of the claim that you can leave them alone under normal circumstances.

 

[mykeedee]

He has enough time to raise his Power rating on his speed setting to discourage them from DoWing him.
Anyways, if you can bribe the other civs to DoW Rome instead of Rome DoWing them, you can help to reduce that kind of situation.
You should not raze Rome. Keep Rome, raze everything else.
It will help to keep Rome because you can "refuel" quicker there and possibly shuttle off 1 or 2 troops to the front from Rome if you're fast enough.
Personally, after playing a number of Persia games, I do not believe that there can be any peace with Greece, but this is on Normal speed.
They DO get conquerors on you after all, and I always find that if I do not DoW them, they will inevitably DoW me.
I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY doubt the veracity of the claim that you can leave them alone under normal circumstances.

I'm with you on Greece they need to die. I usually wouldn't raze Roma but I was still mad that they ruined my last game and I wanted to collapse them as fast as possible.

 

[iOnlySignIn]

@iOnlySignIn how are you buddies with Greece when they get conquerors on you?

They don't declare on me on Pleased (I trade Techs such as Monotheism to them cheaply, as well as declare on Rome when they ask me to). Greece usually dies to Rome before they can declare on me.

He has enough time to raise his Power rating on his speed setting to discourage them from DoWing him.

Yeah. But partly it's because there are many more Barbs on Emperor. Persia usually flips 6~12 Barb Chariots on spawn due to their gigantic flip zone. Same with Mongolia, after the recent Barb revision. I just saw Mongolia flip a stack of 15 Horse Archers on the Silk Road.

 

[pompouslemur]

Does anyone have tips on playing as Russia? I don't have any problem with wars and such, but I find that I start lagging behind in the tech race very quickly and I can't manage to settle further than the Urals without horribly crashing my economy. Are there any specific buildings or strategies that I should focus on as Russia?

 

[strijder20]

Yes.

Production. And not settling too many cities (6 in European Russia, 6 in Siberia).
Don't forget your ability to build wealth/research.

 

[jasomoore]

Greetings everyone,

This my first post in the forum, but I have been using it as a reference and source for mods for Civ 4, so I want to thank all of you who make these things happen for the rest of us who actually have time to enjoy them.

I play the 1.9 version and have beat the HUV with Rome and America M/N after many failed attempts, now I am having an even harder time with Egypt, which from what I can tell from this thread, is one of the easiest ones to win. So I am asking the ones who say it is easy, or anyone who has beat this one for help, please.

I got as far as turn 123 when Greece decided to invade, if that was not bad enough, Rome came to join in on the conquering on the next turn I cannot understand how to discover the necessary tecs to build the Great Library, and supply an necessary army to thwart or repel this invasion. I had a hard enough time trying to get 500 culture by turn 84. I do not think I suck that bad at this game, but I think this is very difficult, and am wishing that someone will be able to give me some much needed advice.

How in the world am I supposed to prevent this, while consumed by researching Literature? Please help.

Thank you again, to those who made this happen, This is my favorite game to play. Do you guys think I should try the SVN?

 

[mykeedee]

^ The culture goal is actually incredibly easy Build the Great Sphinx and an obelisk then run a Priest in that city, once he is generated use him to culture bomb and voila goal # 1 accomplished. Your best bet with the Greeks is to either buddy up with them or rush them before they get conquerors. As for the Romans declare war on them before they do so on you and they won't get free armies.

 

[youtien]

^ The culture goal is actually incredibly easy Build the Great Sphinx and an obelisk then run a Priest in that city, once he is generated use him to culture bomb and voila goal # 1 accomplished. Your best bet with the Greeks is to either buddy up with them or rush them before they get conquerors. As for the Romans declare war on them before they do so on you and they won't get free armies.

You don't need gp. Found your capital on marble, tech mining - masonry - mysticism, build a settler when you grow to 2, settle Yebu on gold. Later capital build hanging gardens & pyramids, Yebu build the great sphynx, you'll get 500 before 84.

 

[Leoreth]

Welcome to (active posting on) the boards!

I must admit I haven't played Egypt since I've introduced some changes, most importantly the Greek and Roman invaders. So maybe it's still possible, but it definitely has become harder. I'm going to play them soon to see if there's a way to make them less frustrating.

 

[Stazro]

Speaking of frustrating , I'm looking for some advice or at least information, too.

Has someone been able to win the Mughal UHV, specifically the culture goal?

I actually had kind of a headstart, since originally I started the game trying to get the indian UHV, which I failed because of the population requirement (by a long shot), and I decided to just take over the Mughals, once they show up. In the first part of the game, I already founded four religions in India, giving my Mughals access to cathedrals from five faiths (Hindu, Buddhist, Islamic, Catholic, Protestant).

The other two goals were not that problematic and after I discovered Military Tradition (for the Harmandir Sahib, my third necessary wonder), I maxed the culture slider, gearing everything towards culture. Long story short, I gave up on the game in the early 1700s, when the french spawned a stack of Riflemen. But I only just had reached half the required amount of culture, so it would have been hopeless to get there by 1750 anyway.

 

[Neshalin]

Did you get any Great Artists? You most likely need to create some Great Works to reach the culture goal. The Mausoleum's free artist should help too.

 

[Stazro]

Did you get any Great Artists? You most likely need to create some Great Works to reach the culture goal. The Mausoleum's free artist should help too.

I did, but I would have needed (I guess) at least four more than I had. Perhaps I could have somehow managed that, but I have trouble imagining it. The thing is, you have to hurry to get all the needed techs for your wonders, you have to build them in time (I went for a great engineer when I realized I would not be able to get the last one by the deadline), you have to prepare for european spawns (the english brought 18 Musketmen and 9 Bombards, btw) and if you are unlucky you have to spend centuries fighting off Mongols, who just won't collapse already and whose price for making peace would be one of your top cities.

 

[jasomoore]

You don't need gp. Found your capital on marble, tech mining - masonry - mysticism, build a settler when you grow to 2, settle Yebu on gold. Later capital build hanging gardens & pyramids, Yebu build the great sphynx, you'll get 500 before 84.

Thank you for the advice, I tried a couple more times after updating to the SVN, I think being able to found the cities on the resources is a great idea and gave me that extra boost in gold and production that I need to get this done. I was able to get my culture goal (500), but I still had to use a GP, got all of the tecs and had enough time to build the wonders just before Greece tried to invade. This time I was able to raise an army and tried to invade Athens, but did not have a big enough army to do so, so just left them on the marble for intimidation, then only one set of conquers came I was able to make peace after a couple of turns. As for Rome, I declared war on them to try to prevent their conquers, but they came anyway, so I gave them Literature for a peace deal . Then Ethiopia declared war on me, right near the end of my game, I was getting ready to invade them but got the HUV instead

 

[2phunkey4u]

Anybody know if the Transsib goal for Russia means that
a) one must settle Moscow (and not e.g. Rjazan)
b) one must settle Vladivostok (and get rid of Chongjin)?
First try I chose Nelkan (on a gems hill) as Siberian port and connected the railroad to Tambov, which I chose as capital. UHV1 didn't check. 2nd try I settled Moscow and connected it to Nelkan. Still no good.

 

[Leoreth]

a) You need Moscow.
b) You need a coastal city where the tile tooltip says "Siberia".Don't know if that's the case for Nelkan.

You need to wait at least one turn for the goal to check. Also, the railroad only counts if it runs through your territory.

 

[Me,myself,and,I]

So what is Prussia's best bet for dealing with Austria? Because invading in 1712 was not the best plan Fredrick ever had. Now (sometime in the 1800's) I have taken Frankfurt and can roll over the weak sauce remains of the Austrian army but geez, that was touch and go, if the Austrians were a little smarter they might have been able to take Berlin.

 

[Power_of_Beer]

So what is Prussia's best bet for dealing with Austria? Because invading in 1712 was not the best plan Fredrick ever had. Now (sometime in the 1800's) I have taken Frankfurt and can roll over the weak sauce remains of the Austrian army but geez, that was touch and go, if the Austrians were a little smarter they might have been able to take Berlin.

Frankfurt should flip to you, unless its HRE's capital. But they usually don't have rifling, so just stomp them with cannons & riflemen. Remember, you can upgrade all units for free, so all the crap units you flip will instantly get turned into the strongest units at that time.

 

[JiimBV]

As Persia, should one start with Pantheon (to build wonders) or Organized Religion (to build initial infrastructure faster)? Also, how in the hell do you get 8% of the world territory in time? The best I've gotten was 6.5%, usually closer to 5%.