Suggestion of new full civis to be done

Polietileno said:
Pretty nice indeed. The mustache is the only thing missing (that was his personal carachterisctic)

I agree, but I don't have any prop that looks like his real mustache :(

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Well, I upgradet the Serbian thread and I'm posting the Lithuanian ones here

Civilization: Lithuania
Bonuses: Industrious and Agricultural (Commercial)
Title and leader: King Mindaugas
Best/shunned government: Monarchy and Communism
Agression: 02 (low)
Cultural group: European
Noun: Lithuanians
Adjective: Lithuanian
Colors: Dark Red (Catharge) and Dark Blue (Babylonians)
UU: Vytis
Civilopedia entry: RACE_LITHUANIA

Cities:
Voruta
Vilnius
Klaipeda
Kaunas
Marijamopole
Taurage
Utena
Panevezys
Siauliai
Butinge
Memel
Naujoji Akmene
Alytus
Anykšciai
Birštonas
Biržai
Druskininkai
Elektrenai
Ignalina
Jonava
Joniškis
Jurbarkas
Kaišiadorys
Kalvarija
Kazlu Ruda
Kedainiai
Kelme
Gargždai
Kretinga
Kupiškis
Lazdijai
Mažeikiai
Moletai
Pagegiai
Pakruojis
Pasvalys
Plunge
Radviliškis
Raseiniai
Rietavas
Rokiškis
Skuodas
Šakiai
Šalcininkai
Šilale
Šilute
Širvintos
Švencionys
Telšiai
Trakai
Ukmerge
Varena
Vilkaviškis


Military leaders:
Gediminas
Algirdas
Jogaila
Vytautas

Scientific ones:
Jogaila
Vytautas Landsbergis
Antanas Smetona
Storosta Vydunas
Mindaugas II

Civilopedia:


Vytis, the UU:
Replaces Knight and has one extra deffensive point.
 
I forgot to say, but I expect some suggestions about the Lithuanian stuff in the above post ;) if someones wanna suggest, the same for this post about the civ of Nicaragua. This civ represents the nations of the Continental Central America (Honduras, Panama, Belize, Costa Rica... in spite of some of them where not part of these former nation named United States of Central America) and some of the leaders r from left wings, dictadors, well, it is good to remember any civ mine IS NOT PROPAGANDA FOR ANY POLITICAL SIDE. ;)

b]Civilization:[/b] Nicaragua
Bonuses: ??? and Agicultural (???)
Title and leader: Presidente Zelaya
Best/shunned government: Republic and Fascism (Monarchy)
Agression: 03 (neutral)
Cultural group: American
Noun: Nicaraguans
Adjective: Nicaraguan
Colors: Light Blue (Spain) and Grey (India)
UU: Sandinista
Civilopedia entry: RACE_NICARAGUA


Cities:
Managua
Leon
Granada
???

Military leaders:
Daniel Ortega
Somoza Garcia
Sandino
Joaquín Cuadra
???

Scientific ones:
Rubén Darío
Bianca Jagger (former wife of Mick Jagger, BTW, Luciana Gimenez is out of the Brazilian leaders list :lol: )
Blanca Castellon
Chamorro
Jarquín

Civilopedia:


Sandinista, the UU:
It replaces Guerilla, has one extra moviment per turn and ignores forests and jungles.
 
CivArmy s. 1994 said:
I agree, but I don't have any prop that looks like his real mustache :(

Another suggestion (which is what I might do with a leaderhead moustache I'm having problems with):

Create an image file with the shape and colour of your moustache (the bigger it is, the better).
Save that pic, and create another one, replacing the colours in this way: the areas IN the moustache itself, have to be white, the areas outside the shape of the moustache, will be black, and save that one as well (as another file)
Then in Poser, you can create an one sided square (OSS), whose texture will be the first image you created. You'll also aply a transparence map to it, which is the second one, and set its transparence to 1. Place the OSS in the zone of the face it has to be as a moustache, and voila, you'll have a quite good looking moustache ready to use.
You can also try aplying a soft bump map for better results.

If you want to see how something like that looks at the end, you may check Roosevelt Leaderhead, where I used that on the medieval era on his "hebilla" (that golden thing) on his hat, and also on the Industrial outfit of Franco. I haven't tried this yet for moustaches, but as I said, I think it'd look good.
 
jorde said:
Another suggestion (which is what I might do with a leaderhead moustache I'm having problems with):

Create an image file with the shape and colour of your moustache (the bigger it is, the better).
Save that pic, and create another one, replacing the colours in this way: the areas IN the moustache itself, have to be white, the areas outside the shape of the moustache, will be black, and save that one as well (as another file)
Then in Poser, you can create an one sided square (OSS), whose texture will be the first image you created. You'll also aply a transparence map to it, which is the second one, and set its transparence to 1. Place the OSS in the zone of the face it has to be as a moustache, and voila, you'll have a quite good looking moustache ready to use.
You can also try aplying a soft bump map for better results.

If you want to see how something like that looks at the end, you may check Roosevelt Leaderhead, where I used that on the medieval era on his "hebilla" (that golden thing) on his hat, and also on the Industrial outfit of Franco. I haven't tried this yet for moustaches, but as I said, I think it'd look good.

I will try the tip and also texture as I used to do when I have been used M2 ;)
 
Polietileno said:
Pretty nice indeed. The mustache is the only thing missing (that was his personal carachterisctic)

@Poli, I didn't find a better moutache prop for Castilla and the texture like moustache didn't fit good :( . There is missing two stuff for civ of Peru, the aggression level and the other thread for Vanilla/PTW, where Agricultural can not be used. I have a lot of support files here to do the config of the civ and I dind't find these two informations anywhere, so, what do u suggest? :D

@Jorde: I read your tip instructions and didn't understand some parts, well, I will read again when I have time and try do understand ;) . BTW, I checked the Franco and Roosevelt LHs for more tips and didn't find any moustache there :confuse:
 
What about Sparta? or Alexandria? I now they were only city states but just imagine if thery rose to be there own nation kina like Rome did. Or the Macedions not sure of the spelling but the nation Alexander the great came from.
 
bloodofages said:
What about Sparta? or Alexandria? I now they were only city states but just imagine if thery rose to be there own nation kina like Rome did. Or the Macedions not sure of the spelling but the nation Alexander the great came from.

Alexandre, the Great cames from Macedonia, I don't know if it was a country or part of Greece :confuse: There is a lot of cities named Alexandria, Alexander had few imagination to think a different city name :lol: and I think my friend R8FXT did the Spartan civilization ;)
 
bloodofages said:
Civ when adding a Civilization is it better to rename one or to get rid of it and then Add a new one?

Both methods works, but I prefer to use the renaming process to add new civis ;)
 
I have the perfect new civ: The Cahokia

Monk's Mound is the largest Pre-Columbian earthwork of its type in North America. Located in what is now Collinsville, IL, it is over 100 feet tall, 1000 feet long, and 800 feet wide (larger at its base than the Great Pyramid of Giza). It is comprised primarily of four layers, or terraces, each smaller than the last and probably added later. It is the only mound with more than two terraces in the eastern half of North America.

It was constructed by the a branch of the Mississippian civilization of the Mound Builder people, whose city is now known as Cahokia, where it was probably used as a monumental structure for religious or governmental ceremonies. It may have been topped by a building as much as 50 feet tall. Its function may have been akin to the pyramids of mesoamerican civilizations, with ceremonies and/or government functions carried out on its various levels.

It acquired its modern name generations after the building civilization fell, though, when a group of Christian monks lived nearby, possibly gardening on its first terrace.

Over the years, the mound has eroded, or been damaged by man, significantly, so that the original size is now uncertain.
 
CivArmy s. 1994 said:
@Jorde: I read your tip instructions and didn't understand some parts, well, I will read again when I have time and try do understand ;) . BTW, I checked the Franco and Roosevelt LHs for more tips and didn't find any moustache there :confuse:

I didn't mean moustaches. I meant:

In Roosevelt LH, his hat on the medieval ages has this golden thing (like belts), which is done that way
Also Franco has something done in his industrial outfit with that method as well: that red thing on his shirt
 
CivArmy s. 1994 said:
@Poli, I didn't find a better moutache prop for Castilla and the texture like moustache didn't fit good :( . There is missing two stuff for civ of Peru, the aggression level and the other thread for Vanilla/PTW, where Agricultural can not be used. I have a lot of support files here to do the config of the civ and I dind't find these two informations anywhere, so, what do u suggest? :D

Instead of Agricultural use... Commercial.
Agresion level: Low (2)
 
Polietileno said:
Instead of Agricultural use... Commercial.
Agresion level: Low (2)

:thankx:


Scytale said:
CivArmy, I was wandering if you were interested in making a romanian leaderhead? The romanians never had a representative in civ.

I am pretty sure someone did mounth ago a leader from Romenia, don't know who or the link. But in case I'm wrong, I can add the Romenian leader in my next LH pack ;)

I didn't mean moustaches. I meant:


Jorde said:
In Roosevelt LH, his hat on the medieval ages has this golden thing (like belts), which is done that way
Also Franco has something done in his industrial outfit with that method as well: that red thing on his shirt

I'll check it ;) Thanks.

Sword_Of_Geddon said:
I have the perfect new civ: The Cahokia

This civ looks like interesting, in spite of we have many LHs from Norhter Native American ready.
 
Fellows, I have a good and and not so good new :)
- Not so good: I wasn't able to change Castilla moustache :(
- Good new: Peru and Etruscans r ready and tested, when I finish to export the artworks of Javanese and Phoenicians I can put these 4 news civis in CFC server. I think in 2 or 3 days the files will be in CFC server. After this I can start working in Serbia and the other civis :)

@Poli: Would u like to do the Peruvian civilopedia entry? It could be great to the project :goodjob: and I'd like use it in the expansion pack of the American Continent Mod. In case u r busy now, not problem, I can add the civilopedia entry in a future version or just in ACM ;)
 
About The Cahokia: The Sioux, Cherokee, Shawnee and other groups in what is now the Southwest/Midwestern US may have all been descended from the Cahokia. It is known that the Sioux did not orginate on the great plains, but east of the Mississippi.
 
NEWS:
- I'm uploading right now the files of these 4 civis: Peru, Javanese, Etruscans and Phoenicians, I expect today or tomorrow post the links of these files in the Graphics Session ;) . Counting Kushan, ready days ago, we have half LH pack ready.
- My next LH of this same pack: Serbian leader.
- I need 5 civis to complete 31 and launch CivArmy's Mod 2, with other 31 civis mines. The 5 leaderheads will be: Colombia, Harappans, Felipines, any civ of central Asia (to represent these formers Sovietics nations) and any civ from Africa, maybe Mozambique, Senegal or other. So, suggestions for these 2 last civis r welcome ;) The two last civis must be from Asia and Africa, cos these regions in CivArmy's Mod r almost empty.
 
For Africa, I would suggest Benin, since I don't think this one has been done and it was an interesting civ - the old empire, that is, not the modern country. However, I don't know if you only want civs that are around right now (obviously Benin no longer exists as an independent state).

By happy chance I have a pedia entry for Benin right here...

#RACE_BENIN
^Most of the great empires of West Africa, including Mali, Ghana and Songhai, developed in the open savannah region
between the river Niger and the forests of the south. The people of these forests, for the most part,
lived in city states with little power beyond their own walls.
The great exception to this rule was the empire of Benin.
^
^There seem to have been people living in relatively advanced conditions in southern Nigeria
long before the rise of the kingdom of Benin, if the ruins of the great walls around Benin City are anything to go by;
certainly these apparently predate the civilisation of Benin itself.
Benin regarded itself as deriving legitimacy from the city of Ife, to the northwest,
the chief city of the Yoruba people who also developed an important power base.
It seems likely that Benin grew in power, and started to eclipse Ife, in the twelfth or thirteenth centuries.
The rulers of Benin succeeded in uniting the peoples of the surrounding forests,
who until then had spent their time arguing and warring with each other,
and they built them into a powerful empire.
^
^The ruler of Benin was called the Oba, and tradition holds that the first Oba was Ewaka I,
the son of Oranmiyan, king of the Yoruba.
In the early years, the kingdom was ruled by a council of local chiefs, called the Uzama,
headed by the Oba. However, by the late thirteenth century, the Oba was becoming more powerful.
Just as the empires of Mali and Ghana, and also Kanem-Bornu, increasingly came to idolise their kings,
so too the Oba became more and more important to Benin, both politically and symbolically.
In a way, the Oba WAS the kingdom of Benin.
^
^This process reached its apogee with {Oba Ewuare the Great}, who ruled in the fifteenth century.
He introduced the principle of heriditary kingship, and also the law of primogeniture,
according to which his son would inherit everything. The power of the Uzama was correspondingly reduced.
Moreover, he increased the power of local government by creating new kinds of local chiefs -
but this also increased his own power, since he appointed them. These local chiefs had considerable power,
but from the Oba's point of view they were very valuable as they acted as tax collectors
and paid him tribute. He could also play them all off against each other if need be.
#DESC_RACE_BENIN
^While he was at it, Ewuare increased the power of Benin itself, partly by building great walls and fortifications
that turned Benin City into a mighty fortress, and partly by conquering greater areas.
This process was continued by his son, Ozulua the Conqueror,
until Benin controlled the whole of the southern part of what is now Nigeria,
including much of the Yoruba territory. Lagos, the modern capital of Nigeria until 1991,
was founded as military garrison. This was the "golden age" of Benin,
and the period when it produced its most famous artworks, the celebrated bronze castings.
Copper and bronze working had been practised in the area for centuries,
but it was the expansion and development of the kingdom that created the social conditons -
and brought the raw materials - which allowed the art to be refined to its highest form.
In particular, trade with the Portuguese, who opened up the West African coast in the late fifteenth century,
helped to spur the process. Ewuara had already divided Benin City into two wards -
one for the palace and state administration, and one for the artists.
But it was under Oba Esigie, son of Ozulua, who ruled from 1504 to 1550, that Portuguese trade was developed
and the most famous bronze casts created. These were an extensive series of bas-reliefs,
made to adorn the Oba's palace. They depict the whole world of sixteenth-century Benin court life,
especially the military, and in their breadth and extent have been likened to the Bayeux Tapestry.
^
^Benin continued to exist as a major power in the area and continued to trade with Europe -
although after the sixteenth century its main export was slaves. By the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, though,
Benin was declining. The Yoruba states still existed to the west,
and long years of warfare with them ground down the power of Benin.
More importantly, the British established a colonial presence in the area in the nineteenth century.
They disrupted Benin's economy by abolishing the slave trade, and threatened to overwhelm it culturally.
The end came in 1897, when the British invaded, massacred many people, razed Benin City to the ground,
and stole all its treasures. Benin was incorporated into the British protectorate of Nigeria.
Today, the Republic of Benin bears the name of the old kingdom, but Benin City itself is in Nigeria,
and remains an important cultural force there. The Yoruba, who made up much of the population
of the old kingdom, are the largest tribe in Nigeria, and there is still an Oba,
who ceremonially rules from Benin City, though he has no official power.
 
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