Suggestions and Requests

[Leoreth]

Great that you like it!

It's up to you whether you want to play with the SVN version. It usually means that you will get new features faster, at the risk of initial problems or bugs. However, it is usually possible to find stable revisions for all but the newest features.

You can see how it works here, I hope that explains everything clearly enough.

 

[Marchetto]

Oooh great! I've installed it and everything, but no sign of Australia.. how am I supposed to do it?


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[Leoreth]

There's no Australian civ made by me, but Novicenoble has created a modmod that includes it. You can either get it here or bundled with a Boer/South African civilization here.

However, it appears that these modmods are only compatible with 1.12, so currently can only have those modmods or Canada in the same game.

 

[merijn_v1]

Australia isn't part of the main mod (yet?). It is available as a separate download. You can find more info in the link.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=529389

 

[Stuart98]

Wow, that's a ninja.

 

[Publicola]

In the Very Historical Thread, there was a recent discussion about the expansion of the Tibetan Empire. If someone knows more, perhaps they could clarify, but my impression was that the Tibetan conquests of the Tarim Basin (Dunhuuang and Kashgar in-game) began and ended mainly on the western end, not on the east. Given that Tibet is blocked by mountains so that any troops it sends must be sent from the east, I wonder if it might be possible to alter the map to enable a more westward origin. I recall in the vanilla mod by Rhye there was a mountain in that area that had a road passing over it -- perhaps that could be like the mountain in the Andes, and become a hill tile after a certain date.

More generally, I'm wondering if Leoreth or someone else could take a second look at the mountain range east of Tibet, to the west of historical China. Looking at the topographical maps, that region appears to be part of the Tibetan plateau, and while the southern portion seems to be part of the a mountain range, I'm not sure the northern portion (starting around the point where the Chinese settler spawns) should be considered mountainous. Perhaps it'd be better to make some of those tiles plains hills?

 

[agentxorange]

I don't think it's necessarily advised that you take Kashgar and Dunhuang as the Tibetans, since they are in the Mongolian flip zone. They are definitely an option, but it is also possible to acquire the 5 cities without taking any in flip zones (2 in core, 2 in India, Pagan).

The part of the map you're talking about is Qinghai. Right now it's represented by northeastern Tibet, consisting of a few mountains, a couple desert hill tiles, and a plains hill tile. That region in real life is surrounded by mountains and is part of a contiguous plateau (Qinghai-Tibetan plateau). This means the game represents the area relatively accurately.

 

[ozqar]

Yeah, the Tibetan Plateau (I've never liked calling it the "Qinghai"-Tibetan Plateau, that's just politics getting in the way of history) is indeed surrounded by mountains the way the map shows it.
If anything, there could be fertile region (grasslands) in the northeast, were Qinghai's capital, Xining, is located and with access to China proper.

What does look weird is the area that would be eastern Tibet and western Sichuan (which would all be the historical Kham), as well as northern Yunnan. It's a tight area though, I couldn't really say how to improve it :S

Edited: I had written Amdo, not Kham, sorry, for Eastern Tibet/Western Sichuan. Amdo would be in modern Qinghai.

 

[agentxorange]

If you wanted to be politically correct you could just call it the Himalayan Plateau but I guess that's not really the point. Xining is already represented by Chang'an however, since it would only be 1 tile away.

As for that other part, why does it look weird? Mountains, hills, forests, grasslands; that about describes the area.

 

[saddam_who_sane]

statesmen! spy experience inspiration for great spies birth! WOO-HOO!
I think time has come for The Power of Statesmanship for China! or for someone else It would be great. For example, double statesman plots, double GPP from specialists and wonders and double outcome from statesmen and great statesmen.

 

[youtien]

Yeah, the Tibetan Plateau (I've never liked calling it the "Qinghai"-Tibetan Plateau, that's just politics getting in the way of history) is indeed surrounded by mountains the way the map shows it.
If anything, there could be fertile region (grasslands) in the northeast, were Qinghai's capital, Xining, is located and with access to China proper.

What does look weird is the area that would be eastern Tibet and western Sichuan (which would all be the historical Amdo), as well as northern Yunnan. It's a tight area though, I couldn't really say how to improve it :S

In real scale, Sichuan province is larger than France. Don't talk about real scale.

 

[ozqar]

If you wanted to be politically correct you could just call it the Himalayan Plateau but I guess that's not really the point. Xining is already represented by Chang'an however, since it would only be 1 tile away.

As for that other part, why does it look weird? Mountains, hills, forests, grasslands; that about describes the area.

Sigh... google "Himalayan plateau" and you'll find it takes you to "Tibetan plateau". Not that Himalayan would be inaccurate, but it's simply not used. And still, how would "Himalayan" be more politically correct than "Tibetan"?

In real scale, Sichuan province is larger than France. Don't talk about real scale.

Hey, I basically said two things, a) it looks funny; b) i can't think at the moment of any way to improve it. Yes, that is mostly because it's too tight or small, but I'm not suggesting to make it larger. I pointed it out because perhaps someone else could think of a better terrain arrangement.

Also metropolitan France is about 65,000 km2 larger than Sichuan (according to wikipedia).

 

[Leoreth]

statesmen! spy experience inspiration for great spies birth! WOO-HOO!
I think time has come for The Power of Statesmanship for China! or for someone else It would be great. For example, double statesman plots, double GPP from specialists and wonders and double outcome from statesmen and great statesmen.

Don't know if a UP is appropriate for anyone, but I think the Chinese civil administration would be well represented by changing the extra scientist slot from the Taixue to a statesman slot.

The Greek Odeon, Roman Forum and French Salon are other buildings that might suit an extra stateman slot.

 

[citis]

Mercantilism is worse than guilds. The reason is banning foreign trade routes. I propose to make it the other way around. One way to do it:

*foreign trade routes value the same as domestic until discovery of corporation.

 

[Leoreth]

Civics never expire with a technology.

 

[saddam_who_sane]

may be it would be fair to add extra progress penalties and more happiness bonuses for some less progressive civics. for example, no great statesman (and great scientist) GPP for Theology (or -50% GPP, or -10% science and commerce) and may be +3 or +4 instead of +2 happiness in state religion cities as a compensation.

p.s. or do the opposite for progressive civics - more ,,, less

 

[andrewv42]

Don't know if a UP is appropriate for anyone, but I think the Chinese civil administration would be well represented by changing the extra scientist slot from the Taixue to a statesman slot.

The Greek Odeon, Roman Forum and French Salon are other buildings that might suit an extra stateman slot.

+1 statesman slot from Confucian temples/academies maybe?

 

[youtien]

+1 statesman slot from Confucian temples/academies maybe?

From Taixue would be fine enough. Confucianism buildings can do too, but maybe when Leoreth decide to make religions more various.

 

[soul-breathing]

Hi, Leo, I want to know how much tech penalty do you add to the first quarter of civs to research a new tech(Revision 739, commit in 7/26/2014).

I feel the penalty a little too much now. In scenerio 1700AD, all civs include Germany I play as didn't get railroad in 1870AD(except Canada for they have railroad on spawn), and all civs didn't get electricity in 1920AD. In generally it seems impossible to discover all techs as Germany in Paragon.

So I suggest to reduce the penalty for the first quarter of civs. And recently I will try it in Monarch to test if it is balanced in Monarch.

 

[Novicenoble]

I think inflation rate is too high in recent versions, which is directly related with tech problem.