Swedes: Should we kick out the monarchy?

Monarchy?


  • Total voters
    70
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Absolutely not. I've seen the Swedish princesses, anything that would reduce the amount of public viewing there is of them cannot be a good thing. :groucho:

At least though, the Swedish monarchy is native to Sweden.
 
12 people for deposing the Swedish monarchy?! Why are people so vindictive to monarchies? What have they ever done to you? :cry:
 
There are some elements of the Swedish monarchy that I don't like, such as it being sponsored by the state and the king having diplomatic immunity. But other than that; it's a part of our history and I don't want it to be completely abolished.
 
12 people for deposing the Swedish monarchy?! Why are people so vindictive to monarchies? What have they ever done to you? :cry:
Since the poll-question is contrary to the thread title, and several people (including me) voted wrong, the poll shows nothing of worth by now IMO.

:king:
Anyway, not only do I think we should keep our king, I also think we should give hime more power. The only scenario where I would be in favor of removing our royal house is if Scandinavia would unite. Having three royal houses seems superfluous and in that case I think queen Margrethe II of Denmark is for keeps. (How can one not like someone whose middle name is Þorhildur.)
 
Since the poll-question is contrary to the thread title, and several people (including me) voted wrong, the poll shows nothing of worth by now IMO.

:king:
Anyway, not only do I think we should keep our king, I also think we should give hime more power. The only scenario where I would be in favor of removing our royal house is if Scandinavia would unite. Having three royal houses seems superfluous and in that case I think queen Margrethe II of Denmark is for keeps. (How can one not like someone whose middle name is Þorhildur.)
Interesting opinions... but WHY?! If you're talking about some 'tradition' BS, I would say christmas is a MUCH better tradition. I like immigrants.
 
Volum said:
Yes kick them out! Norway will ofcourse take care of the princeses, heavens know we need someone like them in the royal family!

What's wrong with Sven O's daughter? What's wrong with Mr. Bean's wife?

;)
 
They're funny, Madeleine (not Viktoria!) is gorgeous and I reckon the net cost isn't that much. It's wrong though to inherit such a post by birth, so I vote abolish... And keeping traditions is a good thing as long as the tradition itself is good, otherwiser it's just idiotic:)
 
Swedishguy said:
Interesting opinions... but WHY?!
Offices and their purpose and authority.

Developed countries normally divide powers between several offices, for many reasons, but balance is an important one. Finland, for example, has a prime minister as well as a president, as do France. Germany has a president and a union chancellor and Sweden has a prime minister and a king. These offices has different purposes in different countries. A prime-minister can do the job of a president and vice versa. A king can above his other duties fill the role of a president and probably with more authority, but a president can't fill the role of a king.

Unification behind fundamental common values.

Some people liked the former prime minister of Sweden, many didn't. Some people like the present prime minister of Sweden, many don't. But both their parties have built their political base on the basic common values that make up the foundation of our entire society. The king is above the political daily jabbering. He is a representative for all of Sweden. He enjoys a 85-90% approval in ratings. How many politicians have such support year after year?

The constitution of politicians and politics

It's not the people that rule our country, it's the individuals we get to choose between every fourth year that do. They are picked by their parties for their ability to promote themselves and run a campaign. Many of them have a taste for power, but are not necessarily the best at wielding power. Actually I have a notion that the more developed a country is, the less competence to be found in the parliament, as the competent leaders will search for more challenging tasks in businesses elsewhere.
A monarch, born into office, may not be the best suited for his/her job either, but will be trained from the beginning to become better at the job, and will never have to be a part of the humiliating or degrading circus that our beloved elective system often turns out to be.

Much to lose economically by doing away with monarchy.

The royal house gets ca 85 million kronor (9 million €/12 million $) every year from the total of our taxmoney, wich is equal to a piss in lake Mälaren. More than half of that sum goes to upkeep of important cultural buildings and institutions. Money we have to spend even if Sweden was a republic. The rest of the money is spent on whatever necessary for the king and queen to do their job, wich is working their arses of here and abroad, for the good of our people. Calculations show that business in Sweden benefits economically from the work that the royals do and so we actually earn money by having a royal house. If we installed a presidential office it would most likely cost us much more and give much less in return.

Much to lose culturally by doing away with monarchy.

We have had kings and queens in this country for more than 1500 years. Some elected and some born into office. Removing such an ancient-old institution would be devastating for cultural reasons. It would be like taking a huge part of our history and throw it in the wastebin, or in civ-terms, like building the pyramids early and then rase them halfway through the game. Only a socialist or a taliban would honestly suggest such a thing.
 
Ingvina Freyr said:
The only scenario where I would be in favor of removing our royal house is if Scandinavia would unite.

Nah, they would be still needed, as they would be regional leaders under the first Kekkonen of Scandinavia, (Finns, look at the next words) Paavo Väyrynen. :p
 
You actually voted for abolishing it. Look better in the poll and in the OP.

What? No I was looking at the OP's thread title "Show we kick out the monarchy?" and thus based on that question, I voted no. :crazyeye:
 
Offices and their purpose and authority.

Developed countries normally divide powers between several offices, for many reasons, but balance is an important one. Finland, for example, has a prime minister as well as a president, as do France. Germany has a president and a union chancellor and Sweden has a prime minister and a king. These offices has different purposes in different countries. A prime-minister can do the job of a president and vice versa. A king can above his other duties fill the role of a president and probably with more authority, but a president can't fill the role of a king.

Unification behind fundamental common values.

Some people liked the former prime minister of Sweden, many didn't. Some people like the present prime minister of Sweden, many don't. But both their parties have built their political base on the basic common values that make up the foundation of our entire society. The king is above the political daily jabbering. He is a representative for all of Sweden. He enjoys a 85-90% approval in ratings. How many politicians have such support year after year?

The constitution of politicians and politics

It's not the people that rule our country, it's the individuals we get to choose between every fourth year that do. They are picked by their parties for their ability to promote themselves and run a campaign. Many of them have a taste for power, but are not necessarily the best at wielding power. Actually I have a notion that the more developed a country is, the less competence to be found in the parliament, as the competent leaders will search for more challenging tasks in businesses elsewhere.
A monarch, born into office, may not be the best suited for his/her job either, but will be trained from the beginning to become better at the job, and will never have to be a part of the humiliating or degrading circus that our beloved elective system often turns out to be.

Much to lose economically by doing away with monarchy.

The royal house gets ca 85 million kronor (9 million €/12 million $) every year from the total of our taxmoney, wich is equal to a piss in lake Mälaren. More than half of that sum goes to upkeep of important cultural buildings and institutions. Money we have to spend even if Sweden was a republic. The rest of the money is spent on whatever necessary for the king and queen to do their job, wich is working their arses of here and abroad, for the good of our people. Calculations show that business in Sweden benefits economically from the work that the royals do and so we actually earn money by having a royal house. If we installed a presidential office it would most likely cost us much more and give much less in return.

Much to lose culturally by doing away with monarchy.

We have had kings and queens in this country for more than 1500 years. Some elected and some born into office. Removing such an ancient-old institution would be devastating for cultural reasons. It would be like taking a huge part of our history and throw it in the wastebin, or in civ-terms, like building the pyramids early and then rase them halfway through the game. Only a socialist or a taliban would honestly suggest such a thing.
I thought Caste System was banned
 
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