Symbolism and Mount Rushmore

[Smellincoffee]

I read once that the faces on Mount Rushmore aren't there to honor the men themselves, but rather the principles they represent. I've forgotten, however, what the four principles were supposed to have been. Lincoln and T.R. are easy enough to figure out by guesswork (Equality and Progress, respectively), but Washington and especially Jefferson are more complicated. What are some of your thoughts?

 

[bhsup]

Well, my guess is that Washington has something to do with duty, love of country, and freedom. He's the Cincinnatus of the modern world.

Jefferson probably has something to do with great real estate deals!

 

[Shaihulud]

Its to celebrate the founding of facism.
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[Tenochtitlan]

Its to celebrate the founding of facism.

Fascism only began in the 20th century

 

[bathsheba666]

I would have thought that Fascism began with the Fasces

 

[Stylesrj]

No, Mount Rushmore was created so Team America could have a base of operations. Don't you guys know anything!?

 

[Ginger_Ale]

I read once that the faces on Mount Rushmore aren't there to honor the men themselves, but rather the principles they represent. I've forgotten, however, what the four principles were supposed to have been. Lincoln and T.R. are easy enough to figure out by guesswork (Equality and Progress, respectively), but Washington and especially Jefferson are more complicated. What are some of your thoughts?

As VRWCAgent said, Washington might represent something like patriotism, or even the strength of the common man, the strength of unity. Nothing says common man like a President that returns to his farm after serving 8 years as President elected unanimously.

Jefferson is a bit harder - maybe expansion (Louisiana Purchase), but I'm not quite sure.

 

[Dreadnought]

Its to celebrate the founding of facism.

That is so funny...ha ha!

Jefferson could be love of independance, Declaration of Independance!

 

[Mr. Dictator]

why do people always bring up fascism when talking about Mt Rusmore.

it was built by a man, not the government. sure he had help but it was his idea.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Jefferson is a bit harder - maybe expansion (Louisiana Purchase), but I'm not quite sure.

Actaully, when Jefferson puchased the Louisiana Territory, he was extremely worried that it was unconstitutional to do so. His presence, other than him being a Founding Father, is probably his stunch adherence to the Constitution, as opposed to John Adams', the man who held the office before him, who held a more lax view of the Constitution's rules.

 

[bhsup]

You all need to get off Shaihulud's back for bringing up fascism, at least in this particular case. I mean come on, doesn't anyone here in CFC OT actually play civilization? Mount Rushmore can be built after one discovers the fascism tech.

 

[JtheJackal]

I think you guys are thinking way of when it comes to Jefferson. He wrote the Declaration of Independece, I think you should be looking for symbolism there.

 

[Ginger_Ale]

Actaully, when Jefferson puchased the Louisiana Territory, he was extremely worried that it was unconstitutional to do so. His presence, other than him being a Founding Father, is probably his stunch adherence to the Constitution, as opposed to John Adams', the man who held the office before him, who held a more lax view of the Constitution's rules.

I know, but then what does he represent? The Constitution? He was a figure of the (then) Republican Party too. He wasn't a guy that attracted a whole lot of attention, so overall I would just have him represent something such as independence, freedom for all, etc.

 

[Shaihulud]

You all need to get off Shaihulud's back for bringing up fascism, at least in this particular case. I mean come on, doesn't anyone here in CFC OT actually play civilization? Mount Rushmore can be built after one discovers the fascism tech.

Thanks for the support,abit surprised that so little people here is playing CIV4 or they would immediately identify this little gem: Mt Rushmore and Facism are both enabled by the founding of Nationalism, it is also called playfully as that facist wonder by some, in the game.

 

[bhsup]

Hrm, are you sure about that? I'm 99% sure the tech is indeed called fascism, which enables the police state civic and Mt. Rushmore. I cannot recall which civic Nationalism gives you.

 

[Shaihulud]

Oops sorry, it should be facism.