Tea Party leader desirous of Property requirement for voting

PROTIP: people who pass Anti-Socialist legislation probably aren't Socialists.

COROLLARY: this applies to both Otto von Bismarck and the Republican Party Cutlass

Actually, my point is that the Republian party does not directly promote socialist policies, but that they pursue policies that ruin capitalism, and that can have a socialist outcome. :p
 
The quality of governance does not have much to do with how many groups are 'included' in it, in exactly the same way that the quality of the iPhone you buy has nothing to do with whether you are 'included' in voting on the management of Apple. This is because the incentive structures of the two are different; the private supplier cannot (except if it is a state-privileged monopolist) gain anything by playing the infantile games elections lead to.

It's simple: if it is in the interests of the individuals constituting a government to govern well - that is, if your interests as a citizen and their interests match - you get good governance. If they don't, you get Somalia.

Not true. When blacks did not have the vote, they were run over by government. Same with women, and Indians. And American Colonists before the Revolution. And many other groups. Excluding people from government is a way for the people in charge to exploit them.
 
@Cutlass- Your point is valid if said group needs representation. Which I agree is most groups. But not ALL groups. Should teenagers have the right to vote? Infants?
 
I'd lower the voting age to 16. Other than that, the parents should look out for their kids interest. Not that many of them do. They vote Republican instead.
 
I'd lower the voting age to 16. Other than that, the parents should look out for their kids interest. Not that many of them do. They vote Republican instead.

They tried to do that in Canada but AFAIK too many old people complained :lol:
 
Far more so. There children will have better opportunities to make a good living. And the nation will certainly be stronger and richer.

They will have better opportunities if they are poor yes, but only because the Democrats will let them leech off those who make money. Though the Republicans do that as well...

As for the Nation being stronger and richer, oh please. The government might be richer, but the nation will be poorer. Voting for statism is not in anyone's best interests. Of course, we have to pick one statist party or another...
 
They will have better opportunities if they are poor yes, but only because the Democrats will let them leech off those who make money. Though the Republicans do that as well...

As for the Nation being stronger and richer, oh please. The government might be richer, but the nation will be poorer. Voting for statism is not in anyone's best interests. Of course, we have to pick one statist party or another...

Let me know if you ever want to check in with reality. :coffee: In the meantime remember that capitalism functions better under liberal governments.
 
Let me know if you ever want to check in with reality. :coffee: In the meantime remember that capitalism functions better under liberal governments.

Capitalism under a fiscally liberal government is a contradiction of terms. In the meantime, please explain what about my post was at all unrealistic.
 
I saw this on PoliticalWire as well, it got play in other, less partisan political blogs.

Edit: I'm sure he's talking about land, its a throwback to the old rules in the 1700s that restricted voting to landowning males
Which on top of being morally repulsive, would lead to all kinds of stupidity today, like the entire Island of Manhattan having a few hundred voters...
actually, that might be more what they're after then excluding poor people.
 
@ParkCungHee- Probably, yes.

@Cutlass- Let me ask you this question, are there any Republicans you respect at any level? (Note, doesn't mean you would vote for them.) If not, are there any right-wingers PERIOD that you respect?
 
I respect Barack Obama, and he is a right-winger.
 
Wait until a real liberal comes into the Presidency.
 
as every leader who runs a state ought to be

Yeah why do those on the hard-right think being called a statist is such an insult? It's not like we don't believe in the power of the state to improve lives, when properly monitored of course.

And usually when it comes to their own welfare they too are very statist. It's just that they don't have either the compassion or the humanity to allow others to share the advantages they have accrued.
 
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