Teddy Roosevelt has lost some weight now (pictures)

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Haig, Aug 4, 2016.

  1. Loaf Warden

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    Excellent. I greatly disliked the original version of TR, not because of the art style (which I don't object to), but because TR was the wrong person to depict as obese. Theodore Roosevelt lived a highly active lifestyle--he called it "The Strenuous Life"--and regularly exercised and participated in numerous sports, up to and including boxing, rowing, and frickin' judo. This was not a fellow who sat on his rump eating cakes and cookies.
     
  2. True_Candyman

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    Also, Victoria is one of England's very first monarchs that is in fact a Lizard in a human suit, so i hope they update this accordingly to show the zipper
     
  3. bcaiko

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    Looks like they may be toning down the cartoonishness of the Civ leaders. That's good IMHO. I'm fine with some humor, but it shouldn't be grossly distracting.
     
  4. johnnybaseball

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    Big improvement, IMO. I like the new model a lot.
     
  5. Tomorrow's Dawn

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    He's a little on the short side, imo.

    His stubby arms as well as his sash give him the illusion of giving him a waistline closer to his chest.
     
  6. AvantInvader

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    Indeed. I find it disgusting they are trying to censor history and delizardize her, just because it's not seen as PC to be a lizard in a human suit these days....
     
  7. labellavienna

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    He looks more accurate now, he was obscenely obese before.
     
  8. Reboot

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    Qin looks too much like a caricature of a scheming Chinese merchant.

    The First Emperor is a martial warlord who commanded the respect of his elite soldiers. His countenance should be take of a scholar-warrior.
    - His robes should be blacker and decorated with crimson. This is from Wikipedia and I'd say most Chinese would think him as such - stately, upright, with a hint of height:


    - His girth is the result of the layers of cloth he wears (not unlike maiko in Kyoto wearing the traditional full-garb kimono). The one in Civ VI looks like he earned it over the dinner table. It's very different.


    - Face shape is also a bit too deformed/caricatured.

    - The buckle feels a bit too gaudy. People of his era are often seen with only cloth belts without buckles. Lose those flicked-up shoulders and maybe we might get something better. Traditionally Chinese robes do not have those flicked-up shoulders - they look exaggerated without good reason to be there. Those extremely wide sleeves, on the other hand, existed for effect and Firaxis shouldn't have made them conventional-sized.

    - The Qin word at the front of his robes should be written in the proper style of his times. (Small Seal Script), which would be the top-left character in this picture:


    The one in Civ VI is written poorly even by modern standards, probably because it's not written by someone used to writing Chinese script. It looks decidedly haphazard.

    - In any case a Chinese emperor will not wear those words on his clothes. As emperor his robes will have Dragons (not his buckle). 'Dragon robes' are a cultural artefact of Chinese history - they are the sign of the right of imperial rule.

    - There are also too few strands of beads for his hat, and those strands are too short. Overall it looked too comical - like someone wearing a hat that's too small.
     
  9. zwei833

    zwei833 HRE Mercenary

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    Which T.Roosevelt is better? The left one or the right one?
     
  10. Lord Tirian

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    Huh, didn't expect this but I really like the change. Roosevelt and Hojo are my two favourites now, followed by Catherine de Medici. They really sit in that sweet spot, looking stylised without looking comical - and look like actual rulers you can take serious without being "realistic" like the Civ5/BE models.
     
  11. von_Wurttemburg

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    Obviously the leftt one, which is more stylize.
     
  12. SMcM

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    Yes! That is great, much better.
     
  13. JtW

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    I hope they make Pedro less hideous, too.
     
  14. Morningcalm

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    Pedro does seem far cartoonier than I was expecting.

    I agree that Hojo and Roosevelt are now the best looking leaders--a blend of realistic and cartoony (though I still object to Hojo's handsomeness in-game since he wasn't that handsome at all in real life, and more closely resembled a chubby monk).
     
  15. Depravo

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    In Civ 6, judo will be required to produce bagels.
     
  16. Mudrac

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    He doesn't look like a Teddy bear anymore at least.
     
  17. Zaarin

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    You mean old Isosceles Triangle Face? I find Catherine's appearance extremely alien and unsettling; I personally think her model is the worst of the lot. :sad:
     
  18. Gambito

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    For me she's perfect. She looks so manipulative and backstabber. Goes with her trait.
     
  19. darko82

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    If this is real, this is REALLY GOOD news. I hope this is real.
     
  20. JimmyBanks

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    I prefer the left one. But that's just me.
     

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