Texas schools rewrites US History

[GhostWriter16]

do you agree that the us has no business bringing democracy to any foreign country?

Why would anyone bring Democracy anywhere?

As for Republic, no because everyone should have the freedom to choose, and that freedom shouldn't be surpressed. Now, if the people wanted an oligarchy, then let them, but I'm sure they don't.

War to liberate them, not to take land.

 

[Lord of Elves]

Why would anyone bring Democracy anywhere?

As for Republic, no because everyone should have the freedom to choose, and that freedom shouldn't be surpressed. Now, if the people wanted an oligarchy, then let them, but I'm sure they don't.

War to liberate them, not to take land.

The idea that someone can "liberate", another country is a fallacy and rather insulting to rational thought. You can liberate people, but ultimately when you go into a country to topple a regime it will always end up in an occupation.

 

[Quackers]

My history teacher is worse. She called Casper Weinberg and Ronald Reagan a pair of Nazi's.

This is another "USA is mental" threads when in truth you get nutters everywhere.

Also its the Guardian and nobody reads that.

 

[Lord of Elves]

My history teacher is worse. She called Casper Weinberg and Ronald Reagan a pair of Nazi's.

This is another "USA is mental" threads when in truth you get nutters everywhere.

Also its the Guardian and nobody reads that.

Everyone knows you Brits are commies anyway

And isn't the Guardian popular?

 

[RedRalph]

Very popular. Third most popular newspaper in UK print-wise, second most read English language newspaper site in the world. But, you know, never let facts get in the way of a good story.

 

[Quackers]

We're not commies but we are probably the biggest adherents of Gramsci in the modern world.

The Guardian's circulation is 302,285 compared too The Sun at 3 million. The guardian is the paper of Islington and Notting Hill liberal elite.

 

[Lord of Elves]

We're not commies but we are probably the biggest adherents of Gramsci in the modern world.

The Guardian's circulation is 302,285 compared too The Sun at 3 million. The guardian is the paper of Islington and Notting Hill liberal elite.

Here I thought The Sun was the one that nobody read.

 

[RedRalph]

The Sun costs 20p and has tits and no news in it, Quackers. Which of Gramsci's ideas specifically do you think have been adopted by the UK?

Here I thought The Sun was the one that nobody read.

Plenty of people read it, but it isn't really a newspaper. Here's it's front page, judge for yourself how much of the content is news: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

 

[woody60707]

Wait, foxnews is looked down on, but the guardian isn't?

 

[Quackers]

The Sun costs 20p and has tits and no news in it, Quackers. Which of Gramsci's ideas specifically do you think have been adopted by the UK?

Gramsci hated the nuclear family and believed it was propagating the exploitation of woman and wanted to destroy the "patriarch" role as it leads to fascism. Our last government has encouraged single parent families (usually always a woman) though our tax system, our nuclear families are being wiped out.

 

[Emperor_Jackal]

Alright, let's just make it simple. They have no business being involved so they (the feds) should stfu about education and get out of it entirely. It's a State issue, not a federal one. What Texas does is not my business nor Washington's.

Well, if the potentially 'liberal biased' article is to be believed, "all but a handful of American states rely on text books written to meet the Texas curriculum".

Here I thought The Sun was the one that nobody read.

It's primary use is fish and chip wrapping.

 

[Lord of Elves]

Gramsci hated the nuclear family and believed it was propagating the exploitation of woman and wanted to destroy the "patriarch" role as it leads to fascism. Our last government has encouraged single parent families (usually always a woman) though our tax system, our nuclear families are being wiped out.

Now that's... Interesting. Is this to mean that the U.K's government is trying to destroy marriage?

 

[RedRalph]

Gramsci hated the nuclear family and believed it was propagating the exploitation of woman and wanted to destroy the "patriarch" role as it leads to fascism. Our last government has encouraged single parent families (usually always a woman) though our tax system, our nuclear families are being wiped out.

great insight

 

[Quackers]

RRW you may want to cut down Domination-level smiley faces.

Your failure to answer my point proves i'm right

 

[Luckymoose]

God save America... From these nuts.

They aren't hurting America, infact these kids are giving my future kids a better shot at high paying jobs. Let them keep it up.

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

How in the blue blazes could some mystery department of ed 1500 miles away know what is best for Missouri students?

Because educational standards should be universal, and not depend on the wealth of your neighborhood.

Math, science, literacy, history, and other subjects are the same everywhere, and there is no reason why there have to be different standards for them. Just as there is no such thing as Texan math and Californian math, there is no such thing as Floridian biology or Oregonian chemistry.

By decentralizing education, you are tempting each district to adopts its own standards, which is exactly what has happened. Worse yet, the standards are proportional to their ability to fund their teaching, which vary depending on local taxes and therefore local income. No matter how stringent the standards, it is impossible for a district to live up to them when it has no funding to teach them. The end result is that mediocrity thrives, which is exactly the case in the United States, and it is why we are an embarassement to the world.

Not to mention the feds already exceed their constitutional authority on schools anyway.

The Constitution makes no proscriptions on education, and even if it did, can be amended. I'd have to wonder what you mean by exactly how it exceeds its authority currently.

No, if anything the feds need to get the hell out of schools.
Not like the quality of education has gotten better since the Department of Education has been established.

That is because it has little authority to do anything other than write carte blanche subsidized student loan checks. So naturally there would be little effect.

 

[warpus]

Is this the new "No Child left informed" thing that they're trying out?

I suppose somebody will have to do all those low-paying jobs once the illegal immigrants are gone.. this is a good way to fill the void, I guess.

 

[RedRalph]

RRW you may want to cut down Domination-level smiley faces.

Your failure to answer my point proves i'm right

I was doing them long before domination appeared

what point? that Tony Blair was a Gramscite? Wonderful logic, BTW

 

[red_elk]

There seems to be a denial that this was a nation founded under God. We had to go back and make some corrections.

That made my day, thanks.

 

[bhsup]

The Constitution makes no proscriptions on education, and even if it did, can be amended. I'd have to wonder what you mean by exactly how it exceeds its authority currently..

I do not understand why I have to keep repeating this on this forum. the way our Constitution is that if a power is NOT listed for the feds, that means the feds cannot touch it and it is reserved for the States and people. Since the Constitution does not specifically say the Feds can be involved in education, that automatically means they cannot be.

To the extent that they are involved, it's been done via collusion between the SC and Congress deciding to frak over the States and improperly say it's constitutional.