Rick Perry

[Thedrin]

As Dubya himself said, "we misunderestimate" him. Dubya achieved a level of stupidity which will likely be unmatched by any other president.

While I don't think that Bush was particularly interested in policy or the application of policy, I do think that he was quite intelligent. Particularly when it comes to playing to a crowd (Karl Rove got too much of the credit there). And that quote you've just attributed to him is one of the best examples of how good he was at it. The vast majority of people would understand what he intended to say. Those that would criticise him for it would come across as aloof and intellectual snobs to those who weren't offended - his supporters and those who did not have strong feelings about him. Those who weren't offended would view those who were in a more negative light. This negative feeling would expand to most people who opposed Bush, including people who didn't see it as something worth criticising him for (guilt by association).

Yes, you (and many others and me) did "misunderestimate" him. I was strongly opposed to many of his policies but people making the easy criticism of him for misusing the English language detracted from [legitimate] policy criticisms against him and tarnished anyone opposed to his policies.

 

[Ayatollah So]

Yes, you (and many others and me) did "misunderestimate" him. I was strongly opposed to many of his policies but people making the easy criticism of him for misusing the English language detracted from [legitimate] policy criticisms against him and tarnished anyone opposed to his policies.

This, times a million. Bush: crazy like a fox.

Reading about anti-intellectualism makes me face hurt.

Me too. That's cause it takes so many muscles to frown.

 

[Cutlass]

Posted at 10:50 AM ET, 08/18/2011
Ron Paul supporter takes out full-page ad that asks: ‘Have you ever had sex with Rick Perry?’
By Elizabeth Flock

A Ron Paul supporter in Texas has taken out a full-page ad in a local alternative weekly newspaper seeking women who have slept with the presidential candidate.

“Have you ever had sex with Rick Perry?” asks the ad, which runs in this week's Austin Chronicle. The ad was placed by Robert Morrow, who describes himself as a “self-employed investor and political activist” and a three-time delegate to the Texas state Republican convention.

Morrow is also the president and single member of the Committee Against Sexual Hypocrisy, which, he says, can help women publicize their “direct dealings with a Christian-buzzwords-spouting, 'family values' hypocrite and fraud.”“I think it's only a matter of time until somebody credible comes forward,” Morrow told Salon.

Morrow says he knows Perry is an adulterer because Morrow is “a patron of Austin strip clubs” and has “friends and excellent contacts in the Austin strip club community.”

The ad also hints that Perry might be gay.

There is no evidence that Perry has had extramarital affairs or is gay. Previous attempts to prove these rumors to be true — by the Austin Chronicle, and others — have failed.

This kind of political maneuvering, writes news site Hypervocal, doesn’t do anyone any good.

“An ad like this is simply begging for false information,” Hypervocal writes. “[It] detracts from discussing policy issues.”

Morrow has done the one-man attack campaign before, back in 2008, when he paid for and voiced an anti-Hillary robocall in South Carolina that claimed that “Hillary knew about and helped cover up Bill's rape of Juanita Broderick.” That campaign was, as this one looks to be, a flop.

By Elizabeth Flock | 10:50 AM ET, 08/18/2011

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...aul-supporter/2011/08/18/gIQAA65aNJ_blog.html

 

[GhostWriter16]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...aul-supporter/2011/08/18/gIQAA65aNJ_blog.html

I don't have a ton of respect for that particular Paul-supporter since he did this, but this is funny....

 

[RedRalph]

Would you be less likely to vote for Perry if it turned out he had a steamy love affair with Obama, in a phone box, for five pounds?

 

[GhostWriter16]

Would you be less likely to vote for Perry if it turned out he had a steamy love affair with Obama, in a phone box, for five pounds?

No, since I can't vote anyways (I'll be 17 during the election) my chance would be 0% of voting for him either way

 

[Ajidica]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...aul-supporter/2011/08/18/gIQAA65aNJ_blog.html

While I can't say I approve of the way it was carried out, I approve of the sentiment.
I do note that they forgot to mention 'male luggage carriers' or 'bathroom adventurers'.

 

[MobBoss]

While I can't say I approve of the way it was carried out, I approve of the sentiment.
I do note that they forgot to mention 'male luggage carriers' or 'bathroom adventurers'.

Why do you approve the sentiment?

Cannot someone err earlier in their life, realize their mistake, and take a stand against such behavior later in life and not be a hypocrite about it?

I dont get the idea that if you do something stupid as a young person it makes you a hypocrite to say that kind of behavior is wrong after you are more mature, and know more about life later on.

 

[Ajidica]

If they come out an say "Yes, when I was younger I engaged in activities that I now consider questionable" before it is revealed to the press, I couldn't care less.

If you are going to be campaigning on family values, lets make sure we don't get any 'male luggage carrier' incedents.

 

[Quackers]

If they come out an say "Yes, when I was younger I engaged in activities that I now consider questionable" before it is revealed to the press, I couldn't care less.

If you are going to be campaigning on family values, lets make sure we don't get any 'male luggage carrier' incedents.

You would make a terrible politcian.

 

[Ajidica]

You would make a terrible politcian.

I know I would. If I ever do run for a public office, I would create a list of all of my failings and issues for my campaign staff to distribute so I can get all of the crap out of the way.

Which of course is why I have no intention of ever running for office. Being the man behind the curtain is much nicer.

 

[Laurencius]

Texas Governor Rick Perry: "In Texas, we teach both creationism and evolution in our public schools, because I figure you’re smart enough to figure out which one is right." Perry made the comment when he was asked by a fourth grader how old the earth is.

So this guy is one of those that believes that men and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time.

 

[Quackers]

I know I would. If I ever do run for a public office, I would create a list of all of my failings and issues for my campaign staff to distribute so I can get all of the crap out of the way.

Which of course is why I have no intention of ever running for office. Being the man behind the curtain is much nicer.

Whats the point of commiting political suicide before you've even started the race? It's stupid tbh and i think people will find it's ok to have a few skeletons. Not like a murder - but GWB had a DUI thats probably the limit.

 

[Ajidica]

Whats the point of commiting political suicide before you've even started the race? It's stupid tbh and i think people will find it's ok to have a few skeletons. Not like a murder - but GWB had a DUI thats probably the limit.

As I said, that is why I wouldn't want to run. I hate doubletalk with a passion.

 

[Quackers]

Most of the time the "doubletalk" is split by like...30 years. Thats an awful lot of time for people to change in. If he was against legalisation of weed yet smoked weed himself in the same timeframe you would be right.

 

[GhostWriter16]

So this guy is one of those that believes that men and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time.

Not necessarily. I wouldn't be surprised, but the quote above does not prove such.

 

[MobBoss]

If they come out an say "Yes, when I was younger I engaged in activities that I now consider questionable" before it is revealed to the press, I couldn't care less.

I believe GWB did do exactly that and still got hammered for it, didnt he?

Texas Governor Rick Perry: "In Texas, we teach both creationism and evolution in our public schools, because I figure you’re smart enough to figure out which one is right." Perry made the comment when he was asked by a fourth grader how old the earth is.

So this guy is one of those that believes that men and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time.

Uhm. You can be a creationist and not think that the two co-existed. Just saying.

 

[Ajidica]

I believe GWB did do exactly that and still got hammered for it, didnt he?

Can you point me to examples? I really didn't pay much attention to election politics in the '00/'04 elections so I'm not sure what example you are talking about.

 

[Leoreth]

Texas Governor Rick Perry: "In Texas, we teach both creationism and evolution in our public schools, because I figure you’re smart enough to figure out which one is right." Perry made the comment when he was asked by a fourth grader how old the earth is.

That's actually a pretty intelligent way to weasle himself out of the question.

Uhm. You can be a creationist and not think that the two co-existed. Just saying.

I don't want to derail the thread, but how can you say that without rejecting Genesis? Did the dinosaurs die out between the seventh and eighth command? On the same say?

 

[Ajidica]

That's actually a pretty intelligent way to weasle himself out of the question.

Still not as good as T-Paw.
"I believe that should be a non-political issue and left up to the state education department for them to decide."