I'm very curious as to how you have superior alternatives to a pentagram when it comes to summoning and hexes.
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Broken_Erika
Play with me.
*tries it, Captain Kirk is summoned*
I'm batting zero on getting it to recite all the digits of pi, like Spock did to stymie a supercomputer.
We're summoning what now?
TheMeInTeam
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just need to be creative and experiment. granted, not all experiments succeed
I guess an alternative can be superior if it costs less for the same outcome just as much as superiority can be measured through improved outcomes
This is why all of my summoning pentagrams are drawn in chalk rather than using silver dust. It's the superior alternative
This is why all of my summoning pentagrams are drawn in chalk rather than using silver dust. It's the superior alternative
Thorgalaeg
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What image generator tool is the best? Have tried Nightcafe which produced some interesting results (a room full of crazy monkeys 
) but at very low res then tried OpenAI but it asked for my phone number at registration... 
) but at very low res then tried OpenAI but it asked for my phone number at registration...
Thorgalaeg
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Finally managed to install Stable Diffusion into my PC which allows me to render as many pics as desired locally using my own graphic card (finally will be able to benefit from my 3090ti beyond flying sims).
Time to investigate this AI thing deeper. Looks like a world of infinite possibilities.
Time to investigate this AI thing deeper. Looks like a world of infinite possibilities.
Thorgalaeg
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I can barely believe i just created this: Trained Stable Difussion with a dozen of photos of Emilia Clarke, added hindu, jade, Alphonse Mucha and some other gibberish and my PC burped this beauty in about 5 seconds.
This black magic is the end for traditional painting.
I am not convinced, in much the same way as the mechanical loom did not mean the end for making clothes by hand. Sure, it may mean that most art is produced by machine, just like most clothes are made by machine, but that really means that we can all have as much art as we want. Those who currently can afford human produced art will still be able to afford it, and it seems likely that some of them at least will still want it (just as many still want hand made clothes). It really means that everyone can now have the art they want without having to pay lots of money.
I'd be of that view too, but even cheap (free) AI painting can easily resemble any style you feed it with. I recall, for example, various images "drawn" in the style of Paul Klee, in a few seconds...
Still, you'd need humans to create new styles - which then can be fed to the machine.
Any art student could probably replicate the style of Paul Klee, but people still pay loads of money for the real thing. I do not see that changing with machine produced art.
When people pay for fine art, they are not paying for the technical ability to put paint on a canvas in the right place, they are paying for the original creativity of the artist. Until machines can have that creative spark I do not see them out competing people like Paul Klee. When they do, we shall really have to revisit the sentience question.
I am of the view that in decorative art (such as painting) you will see machines (obviously not by conscious design nor serendipity, but due to calculating an analogue to them of the art) actually be indistinguishable from the human creator.
It'd still be difficult for an art student (or other artist) to manage to fool many by presenting own work as a supposed "lost Klee masterpiece" - but a machine possibly already can do it, or will in the near future.
I am quite sure that a machine could make something that I could not distinguish from human produced, but if it can fool experts you have to wonder what value are artists providing?
I think art is an expression of our sentience, and until machines are sentient we will always have something we can add.
Another field that is perhaps comparable is computer programing. While some of these tools, including the chatbots but particularly Github Copilot do seem able to produce small bits of code that perform specific functions, and may even work, that is not really what a coder is paid for. They are paid to add the higher level of meaning to the code so it meets the business need. It is that where our sentience is expressed, and so where we can bet machines, until they are sentient.
