The Bible and Us!?

[Brad]

Recently there have been quite a few topics that have touched on the BBL and our believes. I just thought we could state our opinion on it in this thread. The question I am asking is this... Do you believe in the BBL and it's message, accuracy, testemony?
I do. I am a Jehovah's Witness.

 

[plomeros]

The Bible is the number one propaganda ever written! And it didn't get better with all the crappy translations and the different church meetings editing it!

If any supernatural creature actually wrote it, it must have been :flamedevi

 

[Hamlet]

Do you mean all the miracle garbage, or are you refering to it being historically accurate?

Or something else?

 

[nixon]

I kinda sorta maybe believe in it, but I'm Christian anyway.

 

[Lab Monkey]

There was a missing first page.
At the bottom was written. "Any reseblances to persons living or dead other than for satirical purposes is unintended and purely coincidental."

Seriously
The worst thing about the bible is that it can't be argued against - it is written, therefore it is true. Encyclopedias can have a second edition to correct mistakes. Not so a holy text.

My mother-in-law's funeral was the first place that I truely realised why people turn to the Bible. I wasn't converted, but I can see the attraction. I just don't like the Dogma - as soon as as a point of view ceases to evolve then so so we, to the detriment of advancement. Humans need to be flexible - we're too complex for a series of laws and world views written thousands of years ago.

 

[Hamlet]

I voted 'other' as it probably has some scraps of truth in it.

 

[Brad]

Hamlet

"Do you mean all the miracle garbage, or are you refering to it being historically accurate?

Or something else?"
"miracle garbage"? you mean like the things Jesus did... or like the parting of the Red sea, stuff like that? But anyway, I'm talking about the whole thing... From Adam To Armageddon

 

[philippe]

Well some of the events that happened actuallu happened but then not as they intended it.
example:the great flood.
that actually happened in the meditearrain(whatever)that there was a flood that made the black sea.but not of course the great flood that washed everything away.
i got the flood info from a national goegraphic documentaire.

 

[Brad]

What about everything else? (I'm not arguing or agreeing with your point)

 

[MrPresident]

I heard that Moses' parting of the red sea was not to do with him at all. First of all the translation of the word red sea could also mean 'reed sea' which is a completely different body of water, but could have been the place where Moses went. This sea was a lot smaller and therefore easier to part. Secondly, there was a volcanic eruption in the Med (near Italy I think). This produced a tidal wave heading for Egypt. When a tidal wave nears land all the water is sucked out to sea (i.e. the parting of the reed sea). Then of course the tidal wave hits (i.e. the part where the reed sea is unparted and it kills the Pharoh). I am not saying this is what actually happened but it was very possibly what happened and there is amble evidence to back it up. It could be an example of where something people didn't understand became the work of God. It is very understandable. It also explains why there aren't that many miracles nowadays.

 

[Brad]

MrPresident
"I heard that Moses' parting of the red sea was not to do with him at all. First of all the translation of the word red sea could also mean 'reed sea' which is a completely different body of water, but could have been the place where Moses went. This sea was a lot smaller and therefore easier to part. Secondly, there was a volcanic eruption in the Med (near Italy I think). This produced a tidal wave heading for Egypt. When a tidal wave nears land all the water is sucked out to sea (i.e. the parting of the reed sea). Then of course the tidal wave hits (i.e. the part where the reed sea is unparted and it kills the Pharoh). I am not saying this is what actually happened but it was very possibly what happened and there is amble evidence to back it up. It could be an example of where something people didn't understand became the work of God. It is very understandable. It also explains why there aren't that many miracles"
That very well may be how that happened... (I'm not refuting your claim) even if that is how it happened what are the chances of it happening EXACTLY when they needed to cross it, and stayed open long enough for them to get through, and closed in when the egyptian army was all in it... And if it was so small... how was the closeing of the waters so powerful enough to kill the entire egyptian army and all the horses? ( I'm not being argumentative, just asking your opinion on the ENTIRE "story")

 

[VoodooAce]

I think most religions have strands of truth interwoven with the superstition and miracles. The bible is certainly no exception. Many of the 'historical' referrences in the bible have been independantly proven to have happened.

Also, as with most religions, there are many ideals laid forward that good men should adhere to.

Like all good books, however, the bible had to have something to make the story an interesting read. Like love interests and the occasional supernatural event.

Even today, when people make a movie based on true events, they take certain 'liberties' afterall. Many of the many authors of the bible surely augmented their stories to make them more....appealing.

The overall message is good. Its what following generations have done with that message, twisting and turning it to meet their needs, that the message became less pure.

 

[TedG]

I believe in the Bible (the whole thing). Even though not everything in the Bible has been scientifically proven, I haven't ever heard of any scientist being able to disprove something that is stated in the Bible. (I may be wrong here, but I personally haven't heard anything of the sort.) Therefore, I believe that what is written in it is true, unless solid evidence suggests otherwise.

 

[VoodooAce]

My Grandma says nobody has ever proven that when your foot itches that it doesn't mean company's coming for dinner, too.

 

[Adebisi]

I also believe in the bible, but dont give me any crap about indocrination. I have heard what most sceptics have to say.

 

[Damien]

As an atheist,i don't believe in the Bible.When i was in the carribean i saw that they all believed n read it.On the cars things were written such as"In God we trust" or "God will save us".I especially remember a girl in my class who was baptist i think.She kept talkin about God and thought that women gotta stay home.I saw the doc Mr President talked about on arte(a french-german channel).
And Brad,Jehovah's witness is considered as a sect here(however they may practice) with Armageddon etc.

 

[starlifter]

Yes.

But I think maybe you meant something like "Do people believe that the Bible is the work of God?" or inspired by God, etc. It would be hard for anyone to not believe in the Bible, since it demostrably does in fact exist!

So the Bible is not only the best ancient Secular history text, but is the inspired Word of God.

And America is "one nation, Under God..."


In God We Trust and may God Bless America!

 

[VoodooAce]

Hey, Starlifter, your post inspired me to change my sig for the first time ever. Thanks for the idea.

 

[drake]

I like the stories in it, some are pretty entertaining, and the themes are usually wholesome.

As one can learn something from a fable, one can learn something good from a story too. So my opinion is that the bible is a good book, but it is nothing more than that. A book.

 

[polymath]

It's just a very fanciful book, IMO.