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GamezRule · Jun 24, 2011

Looks like France is mine.

I do sincerely hope the Maginot Line is sufficient.

arya126 · Jun 24, 2011

Eh. Ill try my best as Luxembourg.

GamezRule · Jun 24, 2011

Also Tankettes!

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Lord of Elves · Jun 24, 2011

arya126 said:
Eh. Ill try my best as Luxembourg.

Fair enough.

And lo, it is done.

EDIT: This is embarrassing. Heraclius49 is now the Republic of Brazil, as requested in his reservation post. NWAG, could I convince you to try Belgium/Netherlands/Portugal?

Immaculate · Jun 24, 2011

Immaculate said:
USA.
France.
Russia.
Italy.

If i can't get any of the nations i have requested, can you please assign me something interesting (preferably european or with influence in europe)

Shadowbound · Jun 24, 2011

Julius Gandi said:
I brought this up in AIM with LoE too. The US army was very backwards in the years leading up to the war. In 1940 our army had only begun converted some of the horse based cavalry units into mechanized units.

After WWI the US heavily under funded the military up until the start of WWII.

Also a thought, rather than a stat, nations military quality should be something the mod writes down. Something you have to ask about and LoE would answer to the level your nation would know.

Not exactly true, the US Navy was a top-rate fighting force. It just so happens that when your land neighbors are Canada and Mexico, there's no real incentive to worry about the Army or Army Air Corps.

Immaculate · Jun 24, 2011

Denmark if no one has claimed it- otherwise Netherlands.

Lord of Elves · Jun 24, 2011

Immaculate said:
Denmark if no one has claimed it- otherwise Netherlands.

You are the Kingdom of Denmark

@Shadowbound, this is something of an odd question to put into words, but are there specific numbers you'd attribute to what the United States' military stats should look like, or should they just be lesser than they are?

Shadowbound · Jun 24, 2011

Lord of Elves said:
@Shadowbound, this is something of an odd question to put into words, but are there specific numbers you'd attribute to what the United States' military stats should look like, or should they just be lesser than they are?

When the National Defense Act was adopted in June 1920, the Regular Army contained about 200,000 soldiers, roughly two-thirds the maximum authorized strength. In January 1921 Congress directed a prompt reduction in enlisted strength to 175,000 and in June 1921 decreased that figure to 150,000. A year later Congress limited the Regular Army to 12,000 commissioned officers and 125,000 enlisted men, not including the 7,000 or so in the Philippine Scouts; Army strength stabilized at about that level until 1936.

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Despite its limited size, the Regular Army still deserved international respect. Foreign observers rated its recently established, newly equipped Air Corps second or third in actual power. But the Air Corps small inventory of modern equipment offered a marked contrast to the rest of the Army, where ground units had to get along as best they could for almost two decades with weapons left over from World War I. The Army was well aware that these old weapons were becoming increasingly obsolete. In 1933 General MacArthur described the Armys tanks, with the exception of a dozen experimental models, as completely useless for employment against any modern unit on the battlefield.

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For a number of years only about a quarter of the officers and half of the enlisted men of the Regular Army were available for assignment to tactical units in the continental United States. Many units existed only on paper; almost all had only skeleton strength. The Regular Armys nine infantry divisions possessed the combined strength of only three full divisions. In May 1927 one of those undermanned infantry divisions, a cavalry brigade, and 200 aircraft participated in a combined-arms maneuver in Texas; but for the most part Regular Army units had to train as battalions or companies.

http://www.history.army.mil/books/AMH-V2/AMH V2/chapter2.htm#b4

Lord of Elves · Jun 24, 2011

United States of America
Republic: Franklin Roosevelt
Economic Power: 8/0
Army: 10 Infantry, 50 Armored
Navy: 80 Squadrons
Air Force: 75 Air Groups

Newly-revised American stats. Any comments?

While we're on the subject of stats, does anyone have any strong feelings on whether a tech tree should exist/if so what kind? Probably most specifically to set a benchmark for the development of nuclear weapons.

arya126 · Jun 24, 2011

Navy should definitely be bigger. Their navy was basically on par with the UK at this point IIRC. They should also have 0 armor at this point, as what they did have, was terribly obsolete and would be a death wish to be used in battle. They didnt start building dedicated tank units until 1940 I believe (at least on a semi large scale).

Adrogans · Jun 24, 2011

http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/1930s_largest_navies_in_the_world_1930s_leading_naval_power

Just hamstrung myself

Keep in mind though USA is spread on both sides

Immaculate · Jun 24, 2011

Thats an awesome resource adrogans. Thanks for soaking up my evening with old news articles.

Adrogans · Jun 24, 2011

No prob

Lord of Elves · Jun 24, 2011

Enlarged stats list. Most of the countries that have just been added to the list are in a very basic stage stats-wise. Comments/constructive criticism is appreciated, specifically in the matter of Chinese Civil War factions as of 1936.

Spoiler :

Terrance888 · Jun 24, 2011

Hey, will World War II be fought in the Americas? If so, signing up as Brazil, Mexico or Argentina.

Also, I will study on Chinese Civil War history: I have one of these giant, non-communist History of the Chinese Century with lots of pictures. I'll see what I can find.

National Revolutionary Army/Ninja Dude
Military Junta: Chiang Kai-shek
Economic Power: 3/0
Public Approval: 90%
Army: 50 Infantry, 100 Armored
Navy: 20 Squadrons
Air Force: 30 Air Groups

Nanjing Regime
Military Junta: Wang Jingwei
Economic Power: 2/0
Public Approval: 90%
Army: 25 Infantry, 30 Armored
Navy: N/A
Air Force: 15 Air Groups

Jiangxi Soviet
Military Junta: Mao Zedong
Economic Power: 3/0
Approval Polling: 90%
Army: 30 Infantry, 100 Armored
Navy: N/A
Air Force: 35 Air Groups

EDIT: From my research, the Jianxi Soviet was defeated late 1934, the long march starting at October with 40,000 troops as rearguard and 86,000 to leave for the Shaanxi Soviet. (early 1936). Chiang had attacked with methodical, but overwhelming, firepower using German advisors, especially emphasizing pillboxes, trenches to isolate and encircle the Soviet with the Long Marchers barely escaped from. It was when Chiang ordered Xueliang to drive the remnants from Shaanxi that they revolted due to their anti-Japanese sentiments. A coup against Chiang in december of 1936 forced the United Front.

I guess the game will start with them just leaving/facing the attack on the Jiangxi Soviet, and the first couple turns the Soviet must reestablish themselves in Shaanxi as well as manage the politics which occured IRC.

As for stat-wise, Nanjing works with NRA at the start right? If not, then NRA starts with more, if lesser quality, Infantry along with their core of modernized infantry: all Chinese groups are noted for their lack of armored vehicles, but the Nationalists had supposedly had designs from the Germans, as supposedly the Communists from the Soviet Union.

Lord of Elves · Jun 24, 2011

Terrance888 said:
Hey, will World War II be fought in the Americas? If so, signing up as Brazil, Mexico or Argentina.

Brazil is currently taken, but you are welcome to Mexico or Argentina. I assume out of these two Mexico is your first choice?

Neverwonagame3 · Jun 24, 2011

Lord of Elves said:
Fair enough.

And lo, it is done.

EDIT: This is embarrassing. Heraclius49 is now the Republic of Brazil, as requested in his reservation post. NWAG, could I convince you to try Belgium/Netherlands/Portugal?

No, sorry.

GamezRule · Jun 24, 2011

OOC: I would love to see an Axis Argentina or Brazil. :mischief:

Terrance888 · Jun 24, 2011

I don't know, need to see who plays America and Brazil.

EDIT: Please read my research.

EDIT: I am morbidly afraid of Shadowbound, and act irrationally when within Blitzkrieg range. Argentina PLEASE!

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