The Boeing Thread

[Lexicus]

You lot are really in a bad situation if that was true.

It is true, and yes, we are in a really bad situation. Biden has been by far the most pro-union President in the last 50 years.

 

[r16]

the Saudis declare they want to buy 100 British improved jets based on the F-24G

if confused , the Chinese have shown 2 NGADs of their own . Pentagon didn't have the funds . ı claim F-24G is good enough and will be replaced on the production line in due course by a minimal 6th generation jet that will still outperform it . Done so already since 2017 in an earlier format in the Black

if you hate me , some person in the big city nearby because ı said F-24G is unavailable for export and this statement was repeated elsewhere and you think this is treason , once there was no money and the PM had to give away the case of Kaşıkçı and His Excellencies the idiot who will become the next Saudi King Crown Prince Mega BS came visiting and sat all night at the palace of the PM and the PM couldn't stand it and left early , in his own palace . The Saudis think they have bought the aircraft factory in Ankara , at least the F-24G programme for the 50 billion they sent over here ; and they are getting paid back with interest , too . Like if you are so keen , drive the Saudis out . It is kill the 6th gen game over there and they will not buy anything

or you can be happy that the second son-in-law of the PM has bought Piaggio from United Arab Emirates . It used to be owned by this country , 51% in 1998 and many Italians were surprised that their Prime Minister all by himself brought the seperatist leader to Italy against all advice . This you will not read in Wikipedia ! Bought back by an Italian consortium and guess what happened . Do you think Berlusconi loved the PM very much for nothing ? Uhm , yes , r16's fault , everything under the sun

 

[r16]

keep out if r16 stuff bothers you .

Spoiler :

the echo chamber says it is a replay of an incident here in 2018 . The Turkish low-cost airline is relevant as it is just a week that it bought up to 200 737-10s . A ten percent boost to the MAX orders without the options , presumably causing a 0.5% drop in Airbus shares . According to this there is supposedly a pass button in 737s that starts multiple tasks at once so that you can abort the landing in an emergency to climb for a second pass or divert to somewhere else . Accidental use of it caused the plane run out of the runway for a total hull loss .

the Korean accident reportedly involves an attempt to abort the belly landing when it proved to be too fast . Might or might not survived if it had thrust or thrust was not diminished by the thrust reversers at a critical moment or whatever . The KLM thing in Norway seems mundane and stuff .


yes , some aviation angle , too . To the usual fights that take place before great plunder is about to happen . The previous generation that took the US to the Moon would involve von Braun's Nazi lot , so , perhaps Musk and Thiel are given some leeway . Am pretty sure we will survive if they were to give 10 or 20 thousands of Greencards to Turkish Defence sector engineers to gain access for internal sabotage and delay .





because this second Chinese NGAD is even "better" . As a match to the mockery



for three years this has been a "puzzle" to many . That's Area 51 , that's supposedly a secret plane that couldn't be taken into the hangar in time , so to prevent that very satellite picture a tent was erected over the plane . Except we are seeing it , or something . That , dear CFC members , is the vaunted American X-Ray vision . That they knew everything about the thing in top picture ! Though the eagle eyed might disagree ...

this is how there can be a 6th gen to produce in Ankara when Lockmart can't get the contract . Despite it being Boeing's turn according to some roadmap at the development of the Subpar Hornet that stipulated its replacement by a Boeing design , starting in 2024 . Like , a lifeline thrown to Pencabis in Pakistan against the ever forward momentum of the Peshtun/increased Islamist attitude . A common deal to be offered to New Turkey , just out of the F-35 , with Pakistan . And Shenyang , seemingly the designated military export aviation company of China .

duly reported in basics , considering Americans would have more details in accordance with their alliance with China . Roper saw a shot for his , no , Trump's jet , a real fast test thing to try out new methods and offered it instead . Also clearing the F-24G . Which is large entirely to block the 6th Gen , the British advice would have been some KF-21 for eventual sale to Arabs . Which wouldn't have been any use , there would be no sales and New Turkey would eventually buy British . '24G keeps the American angle , lets r16 have a year and a half of a scoop of 110 being the engine . Check the first picture up here , screenshoot of an official Chinese release and the second one is a Flanker which is like rather big in the flesh ... There being no way of New Turkey thing offering less than the Sukhoi stuff . Oh , they are trying hard , no doubts about that .

so ? Only a novice in American -defence- politics would cover it up .

here is Trump's bid against Gyna . Curtailed by apathy . And lack of money , all serving his legacy . It can be in service soonish . Not a risk to production contracts of anyone . Not even bothering the US budget . On the other hand it could also have been on the carriers by about now . But for Anduril and some great vision about the unmanned future . Peter Thiel , hero or villain , already has got a contract when the manned NGAD was axed for a year or whatever .

a sales pitch ? Will automatically fail . That's why it's me doing the marketing . One would have expected people to have learned that they do very rarely get to know what hit them , but , hey , we Turks are primitive , barbarians , foolish and vile , and lately Brown slipper wearers .

24G first . Better if sooner . Everything in due course .

Spoiler :

this is why some American is spewing BS again . Like ı have been some decision maker in defence picks and choices and whatnot . Am not Lord Vader , not at their level , not even real .

which works into politics as well . Only for the big city nearby . Nobody ever knows me in other cities . Anyhow .

the global warming angle has failed . Global Warming is real enough . It would get too hot here . We would take Russia from Russians . We would move there . Arabs would move here . Israel would get its extremely hot Eretz . Russia is not being defeated . Arabs have come here , it is getting too crowded -for the people of New Turkey foremost . So , it has to be done in the old way . We are supposed to fight Israel . So that they can kill us one by one .

ugh , there is the typical eagerness to get on with it , that New Turkey would conquer everything in a week .

the crisis management in New Turkey is firmly standart: avoid making an appearance until the things settle down . By the time the top people make a press conference in Doha , promising to fight to the end and Martyrdom is their only goal , Israel will be in Üsküdar , the other side invaded by America .

ı expect to be accused of treason all day long , all the way along . Luckily there is the second son-in-law of the PM . His drones are better than any jet , as the city knew a few years back with the war in Ukraine and it was clear ı was calling it the F-24G . Like he can't go wrong . Even if those very Americans declined to turn over the 6th gen over to his company for some reason .



this is a rally led by the PM's son . Ayasofya they conquered because Greeks would look bad if they converted a museum into a church after conquering Istanbul . They will get their revenge by converting a mosque . And started a restoration to last 50 years because their voter base started damaging the place as drinking or eating the door crumbs or the wall plaster will make them more virile or cure cancer or whatever . They also love the dollars and the euros the tourists pay .

umeyyad is in Damascus . They did not conquer Damascus , but that's some very minor detail .

the last one is El Aksa .

Kudüsü de alacağız inşallah!
Kudüsü sana kim niye veriyor?

that goes along the lines that they will defeat the Zionists and the world and everything and GET the Holy City of the Abrahamic Religions . The second asks who is GIVING them the city for which reason . The enemy whom they actually never ever fought will ethnically cleanse Syria as they are so much troubled with Gazze and the West Bank filled with Palestinians . Most of the heavy lifting done by New Turkey and accordingly attrited . So that Arabs , at least those who survived will have no trouble in taking over this country . Like , it is no accident that ı have been speaking of concentration camps and gas chambers like since ...

actually , looked it up . The first one with the intent seems to be the Super Star Destroyer Misinterpretator post on Feb 23, 2013 . Yes , if people can , they will put us into concentration camps and gas chambers as claimed Jews while Israel exists . It is some core prophecy of Christian Conspiracy tradition , lots of dead people . Those in this country who think they will survive perhaps by being flexible , or some different ethnicity or the willingness to conform , or even making up a claim for a different ethnicity ? You will become slaves , your women will be taken away , you will be s_domized (mostly figuratively but also sometimes literally) because your claimed expertise and knowledge and wisdom and capability does not exist . You are going to be willingly spent to realize the wildest fantasies of others . It is only the thing that they can't limit the fight to your glorious existance .

so , with such crazy rebuttal of gifts and awards and challenge to the US , how can it be ever possible that the 6th gen can happen in Ankara ? Uhm , like watch ...

 

[Samson]

Boeing going backwards as production’s slowing and woes keep flowing

Beleaguered aerospace outfit Boeing has revealed how many commercial aircraft it shipped in 2024, and the news isn’t good.

The company on Tuesday revealed it sent 348 new aircraft down the runway last year, 265 of them 737s in addition to 18 767s, 14 777s, and 51 787s.

Buidling an aircraft almost every day sounds like quite the achievement, given the complexity of a modern airliner and the long supply chains required to make them.

But Boeing data reveals that it shipped 528 planes in 2023, so it went backwards in 2024.

Rival plane-maker Airbus has not experienced similar turbulence. In 2023 the company launched 766 planes, up from the 735 it reported in 2023.

Airbus does have one advantage in that it counts the A220 regional jet in its total, having acquired its originator – Canadian firm Bombardier – in 2020. But A220 production isn’t enormous, with 68 built in 2023 and 75 last year. Even if Airbus excluded the A220, it would still have flown higher than Boeing.

The France-based plane-maker’s biggest seller remains the A320 family, 602 of which took to the skies for the first time last year. 32 widebody A330s and 57 A350s joined them. Airbus also has a new hit on its hands in the form of the A321XLR variant that gives the single-aisle workhorse the range to comfortably tackle trans-Atlantic flights.

Boeing’s commercial plane production slowdown is attributable to industrial action and safety concerns that have seen it revisit practices and procedures to ensure it doesn’t do things like deliver planes that are missing bolts that hold doors in place or write software that can make planes crash.

The company’s other offerings also have problems. Exhibit A is the Starliner space capsule that is designed to carry astronauts to orbit and back again, but which in June 2024 made it into space after years of delays but was then rated too dangerous to make the return journey with a crew aboard. Hitch-hiking or summoning an Uber are not options in space, so the pair of ‘nauts who rode Starliner to the International Space station now face many months in orbit while they wait for a ride home.