The Camelot Times

[vikingruler]

Plots for revoulution have been discovered​

by vikingruler​

Yes, it has come to the Camelot Times attention that people are conspiring to overthrow our beloved empereor and proclaim him as a king or a consul. the names of these governments are monarchy and republic. it has been said that in monarachy the people enjoy war and never revolt due to it yet crime is a constant problem. in republic the people don't usually revolt from war but it is possible, also as in monarchy crime is constant but no as bad.The conspirers are currently debating which one to use and we have reason to believe that they will soon vote. No matter what happens, one thing is for certain, there will either be a new government or many executions for treason.

 

[classical_hero]

Dear Editor,
It has come to my attention that we have been attacked by two foriegn nations. I'll be able to defeat them with my own two fists. Let me at 'em. I'll show this great nation how to fight.
Regards, Classica Musica, still sobering up.

 

[GenMarshall]

Withdrawn, This article has been removed due to change of opinion.

 

[mhcarver]

Let me be quick, I'm tired ,overworked and school is draining me because of AP exams next month(My AP English Language teacher makes us write an essay every day). Because of this along with lacrosse and boy scouts I will not be able to put much if any work into the paper. So I would like to resign as editor but staying on as owner effective upon choosing my replacement. Now I need someone to replace me as editor. Whoever my replacement is will have control of the day to day workings of the paper and will be able to make their own thread for it. Whoever wants to be editor please PM me saying
(A)why you want it
(B)what you intend to do with it
(c)why should you be editor

 

[GenMarshall]

Withdrawn, This article has been removed due to change of opinion.

 

[Octavian X]

Dear Editor,

It has come to the attention of my office that rumors are spreading around the capitol that the Office of Commerce has issued an order allowing for a declaration of war against Gandhi and the Empire of India.

This is a lie. There will be no war with India. In fact, we love India and Gandhi very dearly, and would absolutely never think of attacking our beloved friends and neighbors.

In addition, we ask that all would-be dissenters, protesters, and draft-dodgers of the War of Indian Annexation, as well as spies from India itself, please report immeadiately to convientely placed detention centers at the city's outskirts.

Sincerely,
Octavian X
Director of Commerce

 

[Black_Hole]

nvm this(cg changed his opinion)

 

[Black_Hole]

Turnchat Privatization: The shake of the old order​

by CivGeneral, Freelance Reporter​

It has come to my attention that an established system has come under attack once again. I’m not talking about the Privatization of Social Security, but I am talking about the Privatization of the Turnchat. Public Turnchats has been established in the first demogame for the porpoise for citizens to witness the play by play turns of the game save. The Turnchat, before the implication of the law that leaders cannot change their orders mid-turn, have also been used as a communications medium between department leaders and the DP. A benefit of the Turnchat is that the citizens, acting as judicial watchdogs, can watch the DP follow the instructions and ensure that it is followed.

There is a new, disturbing movement that the topic of turnchat privatization would happen. This would result in disenfranchising, alienation, and de-democratizing of the demogame. The signs of Turnchat Privatization are happening has been around for a while. One key in the signs is the removal of the will of the people from the chat. "The public turnchat has, for the most part, had whatever truly legal power it once had for the most part removed in favor of the forum." - Octavian X. The division between Public, Private, and Turnchat elimination has been around since the start of the turnchats. There are three groups of people. First are the Public Turnchaters, they are the ones who wish to keep the turnchat public and wish to bring the turnchat back to its former glory. Second are the Privatized Turnchaters, they are the ones who wish to see only a select few (Possibly elected officials) to attend the turnchat. Lastly are the Turnchat Eliminators, these are the people whom want the turnchats to be eliminated entirely and have the majority of the powers in the forum.

The privatization of the turnchat will force people to feel that they have been alienated from a privilege that has been set since the start of the first demogame. The reasons to privatize the turnchat is to be "less distracting for Presidents, and could occur with lesser possible incidence of turnchat attendees having undue influence over turn play." - Octavian X. To me and others who support keeping the turnchat public, it’s a sign of the DP and the president shunting the citizens away from the turnchats. DPs and Presidents don’t have to follow the influences of the turnchat attendees. "If a DP does not want to be influenced by those inside of the turnchat, then fine. However, a Public turnchat will insure that there is no foul play, period." - Strider.

The turnchats are soon to be doomed to be just a distant memory of the demogame past to the oldbies.

Source: Private Turnchats (Posted Apr 08, 2005, 09:23 PM EDT)

how is it "de-democratizing"? Oh wait I see, it pulls away from small group democracy. Now the people at the chat do not get to control the game more than the forum goers.... this is a huge democracy breech.... what were we thinking?

 

[GenMarshall]

ahhh, I get it.... so the directors shouldnt follow the will of the people? the consuls take care of long term plans and the WOTP. Its not beoucracy, its democracy!

BH - I have removed that article due to change of opinion.

I may be considering on removing the privization of the turnchats.

 

[Octavian X]

Though, for the record (and believe me, I absolutely hate doing this) - it's bureaucracy.

 

[greekguy]

Trading Options Galore- Controversial?​

by: greekguy, trade reporter​

Our nation is currently discussing numerous possibilities pertaining to technology trading. Most notably is the proposal put forth by Octavian X, which would have us give up an almost monopoly technology, Construction, for all the tradable assests of the Mayan nation. Some citizens support the deal, pointing out it will put us within grasp of the Middle Ages once we discover the secrets of currency. Opponents of the exchange cite that it will help speed up the AI-AI trade rate, and will mean that our great nation will face feared Swiss Mercenaries whilst trying to conquer the Dutch. This debate has become controversial between Octavian X and his supporters and the opposition who are desperately trying to stop the trade from occuring. On another note, a trade that has been confirmed will happen at the next turn chat. Fabled Spanish workers will be bought to service our great nation anyway they can. Fantannia, in return, is offering the great technology of Philosiphy. With all these trades our empire will surely rise in greatness and continue its destiny towards world supremacy by any means.

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@civgeneral- there was nothing wrong with the second article. it shows the controversy of the issue and your opinon, perfectly fine.

 

[RoboPig]

Withdrawn, This article has been removed due to change of opinion.

Why?

 

[RegentMan]

Why?

I guess he changed his opinion.

 

[RoboPig]

I guess he changed his opinion.

What i meant was why was it removed?

 

[RegentMan]

What i meant was why was it removed?

Not to be a smartass, but CivGeneral edited it out. He changed his opinion, so I guess he felt the need to wipe out everything that says otherwise. I personally hate it when any part of history is wiped out/altered, but that's just me.

 

[Nobody]

yeah, it would be better if it stayed there. so that we could see the changing views of people. There is nothing wrong with changing your oppion.

 

[GenMarshall]

The Silent Minority​

The fall of the Traditionalits​

By Freelance Writer, CivGeneral​

The citizens group known as the Traditionalits has became less active in recent weeks. Mainly some of the members are questoning the future about the group. One example is Mad-bax, he is/was a member of the Traditionalits, but apperently (through observation of my eyes) have left. "I read it today to see if anything had changed. But it hasn't has it? And it won't, will it?" - Mad-Bax. I myself dislike the new government structure of the government and joined the Traditionalits to push forward the old government system. Apperently its not going as fast or sucsessful as planned. This is basicly my introduction to what I call the "Silent Minority".

Many of you have hear about the "Silent Majority" which is a term used by Richard Nixon to refer "the large number of people in a country or group who do not express their opinions publicly." (Wiki). The "Silent Minority" is like the "Silent Majority", the only key difference is that there are less people in a "Silent Minority". I found myself slipping slowly into the "Silent Minority" by refusing to express my opinions in a thread regardning changes to the new alternative government consitution. "Devout Silent Minorites" would also tend to accept and tolerate the new alternative government consitution and varey rarely or even never express their opinions in a thread regarding changes to the new alternative government consitution.

Disclamer: The article only expresses the author's opinion based on what he has observed in both personal level and sociological level in the demogame.

 

[mad-bax]

A Letter to the Editor.

Dear Sir,

It appears to me that the discussion surrounding our constitution has stalled for many reasons. For my part however, I was never a "Traditionalist" as has been claimed. I enquired as to the policy and aspirations of this citezens group, and actually found myself diametricaly opposed to their view. Inspection of the early part of this thread will bear out my testimony.

Instead, I have tried, and continue to try, to approach the resolution of issues that may (or indeed may not) exist within the constitution from a purely pragmatic and objective angle. Rather than embroil myself in the tangle of personal prejudice, personality clashes, and oftentimes juvenile ranting in the Traditionalists thread I am attempting to work with the President in proposing ammentdments to the constitution that resolve the root causes of the problems that lie therin. Such an approach is a journey, since it does not allow for the presupposition of solutions. The approach is to identify the real problems and then the root causes of those problems. Once that process is completed, only then can we hope to find real and lasting solutions to the problems.

For all these reasons, it is impossible for me to hold a point a view on what changes need to be made to the constitution, or whether the tradidtional method was better or not. Only when the problems are identified can I begin to form such an opinion.

What was it the Mark Twain once say... Something like "Better to remain silent and appear a fool, than open ones mouth and remove all doubt". When I have an opinion that I can support, I will voice it.

Yours faithfully,

mad-bax

 

[greekguy]

What was it the Mark Twain once say... Something like "Better to remain silent and appear a fool, than open ones mouth and remove all doubt". When I have an opinion that I can support, I will voice it.

the full, original quote is in my sig, if you're interested.

 

[mad-bax]

Aah so it is. Formidable author Mark Twain. Only marginally less eloquent than what I am.