The CFC Mafia (Game Thread)

[Earthling]

Something's not adding up for me about both Earthling and atpg, IMHO. Of course in atpg's case, it may just be the horrendous grammar.

Yes, it's probably because you didn't read the thread and are voting on a whim, like a twisted Pocahantas.

There's nothing in particular between me and askthepizzaguy, aside from the fact he's a joker or something, we've all known that for a couple of days, and he thinks it's funny to try to go after Innocents like me.

But I'll resummarize for your convenience:

-I'm Innocent, it's all right if I get permab& as it's not a big loss, and better than certain others, however I'd still like to see many people actually show up and vote today.
-Regardless of what happens to me, it's very, very likely we've found a set of guilty people, and some who are probably Innocent that the other Innocents need to trust. So please, permab& Zack next if it all possible, and try to help out Takhisis et al.

 

[Romanichine]

I'll stick with ATPG, we need to WOG everyone who is inactive if you guys want to lynch active people, otherwise we'll have a problem later in the game.

WOG: Every inactive players (missing 2-3 consecutive votes)

Come on, we need more votes on this. Remake won't WOG inactive players if we don't push this vote.

asparagus!!!!

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

WOG: Every inactive players (missing 2-3 consecutive votes)

This n33ds to b don3.

 

[Earthling]

Due to you being a joker or something and wanting to wipe out Innocents for lulz? Whatever happened to WoG's for spam by the way, you haven't even lost your voting privileges.

We're not going to get 6 or 7 WoGs, which is the number I'd count by an actual metric of voting and activity, and even if we did, it would probably be too game-shattering. 1 or 2 either won't matter, or could still cause problems, in that certain people who may be lurking/only doing things in private WON'T be WoG'd.

So I'm against blanket WoGing right now, it's also what Dumbo would want. Permab&ing actives is still fine if we do it right, especially when we have Mafia suspects. What really would cause problems down the line is those patented bandwagons for no reason, the tried and true technique for catching Innocents.

 

[Romanichine]

Vote: Beefy

Don't mind this silly grape here. I don't mind if we win or lose.

Hah, that's four days in a row that you vote for yourself Beefy. Would you care to explain your behavior, my dear cauliflower?

 

[Romanichine]

Due to you being a joker or something and wanting to wipe out Innocents for lulz? Whatever happened to WoG's for spam by the way, you haven't even lost your voting privileges.

We're not going to get 6 or 7 WoGs, which is the number I'd count by an actual metric of voting and activity, and even if we did, it would probably be too game-shattering. 1 or 2 either won't matter, or could still cause problems, in that certain people who may be lurking/only doing things in private WON'T be WoG'd.

So I'm against blanket WoGing right now, it's also what Dumbo would want. Permab&ing actives is still fine if we do it right, especially when we have Mafia suspects. What really would cause problems down the line is those patented bandwagons for no reason, the tried and true technique for catching Innocents.

If we were to WOG 3-day inactives, we would have:

5 WOG for missing Days 1-3 ( God Emperor, Landlubber, Lord OST, mechaerik, Owen)
4 WOG if they don't vote today (Brian Shanahan, CivCube, merciary, SilentConfusion)

What a nice cleanup that would be!

WOGs are a necessary evil. If people are not playing the game, we need to replace or WOG them.

******

<---- that's a nice broccoli smilie actually.

 

[choxorn]

<WOG: God Emperor and Lord OST>

 

[Tee Kay]

<WoG: Taillesskangaru>

I've already lost the game anyway.

 

[mgsmuhammad]

<WoG: Taillesskangaru>

I've already lost the game anyway.

Gah!

Damn you and your Xenurine!

 

[Catharsis]

Has anyone else had anything stolen, since Kennigit?

Restating this without the roast chicken part this time.

If we were to WOG 3-day inactives, we would have:

5 WOG for missing Days 1-3 ( God Emperor, Landlubber, Lord OST, mechaerik, Owen)
4 WOG if they don't vote today (Brian Shanahan, CivCube, merciary, SilentConfusion)

Also Ravus_Sol, I think. Landlubber was away, so he has an excuse for some of that inactivity (and he did give notice of it).

<---- that's a nice broccoli smilie actually.

Even better than my second favourite smiley, . As in, fascist moderators .

 

[Arakhor]

I'm happy to blanket ban inactives as they're only dragging the side down and allowing the Mafia space to hide. The more active people can then have the finger of suspicion pointed at them more accurately.

 

[Zack]

Earthling, is it so outrageous that I voted for you because someone bribed me to do so? Besides, your incredibly lengthy replies to me saying "you're suspicious" just prove my - and everyone else's - point.

 

[Earthling]

No, it doesn't. I've not done a single "suspicious" thing and the fact that you didn't even try to point something out really proves that again. When I've got like 9 or 10 votes against and am clearly getting lynched, I have to actually say something and be clear - fortunately I have a rather worthless Innocent role so those of you who like to bandwagon Innocents for jolly fun lucked out this time.

And who bribed you then? Askthepizzaguy straight out lying to everyone again? You clearly don't even want to catch scum, everyone else involved in bribery business, like Kennigit/Flevance, has at least brought it public to try to expose scum. The poor and good at heart, like Aladdin, those are the true heroes.

But I'll say this again, you and your supporters are clearly some sort of scum. I'm fine with dying to demonstrate that, help the Innocent cause.

Zack, Flevance, and probably some of their erstwhile supporters are scums of some sort. Permab& then all after I die, if they're not gone today.

Especially if they are the Mafia, but even if they are "neutral" killers, this will lend huge evidence to Takhisis, tailless, and Kennigit being Innocent, so other Innocents should help them out in the future.

And you know what, fine, I'll renege my earlier WoG statement

WoG all nine of those people Romanichine listed, if they don't vote or participate today or tonight

If we get some of the Mafia gone, in Zack & co, I guess this could speed up the process more.

 

[Zack]

Flevance isn't a supporter of mine, where did you get that from? And "I haven't done anything suspicious" .... surely you jest. I took the bribe because it didn't really matter, you would've been lynched anyways. Might as well make some money out of it, eh? And I made it public just as others have.

 

[Earthling]

No you did not "make it public," you still haven't said who bribed you. And your reasoning is clearly still scummy, so if you think "making money off a death" is a good idea, I'm just going to say, that when I am permab& and Innocent, my last wish is that everyone immediately permab&s you. Hope it's worth the money but we both know there is no money that matters, you're just a scum trying to get others bumped off before you are caught for good.

You've probably directly lied about whatever went on between you, Kennigit, and Takhisis, that much is very likely. If you're not lying, at least one of them is lying about the "moderator faction" and whatever goals and abilities it has. But you and Flevance seem far more likely to be Mafia, and either way we test this hypothesis, if you all turn up guilty that will exonerate them from any worries.

You may not be defending Flevance exactly, but the same people defending Flevance (askthepizzaguy, probably bribed by mafia) and random shadow-lurkers like wideyed and choxorn, are also defending you. And your votes, for no good reasons, are indirectly defending him and other scum.

I think it's a very good shot, that what's going on here is we have caught a couple of the "killers" in the game. You killers don't know the Mafia so you went out searching for Mafia, and instead found Innocents who are now exposing you. But then again I wouldn't be surprised if you're just straight Mafia too Zack, like Jafar.

If anyone needs another summary, there is nothing particularly new here. Except Zack is scum and must die, and you'll know I'm Innocent after I'm gone, so I can safely say everything from abilities, conversations, and posts here indicates he is scum.

Also still welcoming anyone who needs to talk to or tell me something in private before I go.

Edit - @Catharsis: I will say this - I think it would be an utter farce if any of those listed people are not WoG'd, while others are, unless they post here. Remake20 should make that decision. If some of those posters are active at night or sending night abilities, either they still get WoG'd for not voting, or NONE of them get WoG'd. It's really stupid to just WoG the Innocent inactives, let Mafia and killers still do stuff at night.

 

[Catharsis]

SilentConfusion, Cull

I'm a bit torn on the WoG situation - while I agree that it's good to cut inactives loose, and there's a decent chance of there being at least some killers in that bunch (considering the lack of nightkills so far), can we afford to cavalierly jettison that much strength? Most of those people are active elsewhere on CFC (or at least, have logged on - I checked God Emperor's profile, and mechaerik's and Lord OST's, and they've all been online recently despite their lack of presence in this thread) so perhaps we should just PM them.

Or send them a basket of oranges, maybe.

 

[Cull]

I'm not inactive though. Why lynch me?

 

[King Flevance]

Askthepizzaguy is not really defending me nor is Zack. ATPG is just making a solid point about outing mafia. I don't know how you have tied me and Zack. My vote changed from him to you because:
1) Everyone else seems afraid to lynch him.
2) You seem determined to point at me and claim mafia, when even Kennigit, the person who brought up my "scumminess", doesn't even believe me to be mafia or neccessarily evil. Although he is voting for me. You are the only person who points and shouts that I am pure evil and coincidently, you are racing me to the lynch room. o.O
3) You are accusing everyone of bribery when, as far as I can tell, none has went on. You aren't backing it up with anything more than vague assumptions which this thread is full of.

You are simply pushing my bandwagon to avoid a lynch yourself. Your whole story doesn't hold up. Which is all the more reason I am glad I switched my vote to you.

Oh wait, Lord OST Cull

 

[Earthling]

You both lied to Kennigit/Takhisis/tailless. And no, you seem to be quite wrong, because from what they've communicated, they are definitely looking at you as being one of the "killers."

Zack just directly said he was bribes/offered bribes. You yourself were looking for bribes or a way to kill people, that's why I'm voting for you. Askthepizzaguy a while back said something about needing Mafia help to complete his personal goal. I haven't accused others of bribery, I've actually asked people like classical_hero who are honest and not involved in bribes.

You have no reason to go after me, except to buy time and spare your own hides.

It is possible something really devious has happened, and you were Innocent or Neutral and the three listed above are Mafia. But it's pretty much got to be one way or the other. And Takhisis and Kennigit haven't been attacking random Innocents all game, so I'd rather go with them as Innocent, you as the liars and scum.

Askthepizzaguy has been purposefully trying to get Innocents permab&, sow confusion, and make deals with the Mafia. He has no reason to not vote for you, or to vote the way he actually did - he's not helping the Innocent cause, at most he's just biding out his time as a joker, not a funny one like Genie though.

It's clear that it's your story that doesn't hold up. You know I'm entirely Innocent, you are only in this to save yourself, and your reasoning here, like Zack's, is awful. Just voting for me cause there's already a bandwagon? Again, I hope the facts of the matter are clear:

When I am permab&, and Innocent, you two are next, because you are scum. You're not getting away with pretending to be Innocents and just actually on the wrong bandwagon. So if you have any possible delusions of trying to appear Innocent, it's too late to make an effort to save me even. But you're betting your own lives on me being Mafia, and I'm not.

 

[Cull]

Oh wait, Lord OST Cull

Explain. Please.