The CFC Mafia (Game Thread)

[Catharsis]

Earthling: oh, well of course I agree that private communication is not enough to justify being overlooked by an activity-WoG, if there is one. I just don't feel too swell about the wiseness, from an innocent POV, of a nine- or ten-person (remember Ravus_Sol, who Roman missed from his list) activity-WoG in the first place, if remake is going to give us that choice.

Cull: it's more that you were inactive, and then came back, which is scummier than being inactive and not coming back. Wholly unfair, I know, but that's how I see it.

Also, Kennigit hinted (in his usual riddle-me-this-ain't-I-so-mysterious way) at a possible connection between you and Flevance, although I'm not sure how likely this is given your vote, and his. Might be distancing. I'm not very good at detecting distancing.

Nor am I very good at resisting tasty calamari.

Flevance: public role claim, perhaps?

 

[Kennigit]

Askthepizzaguy a while back said something about needing Mafia help to complete his personal goal. I haven't accused others of bribery, I've actually asked people like classical_hero who are honest and not involved in bribes.

Askthepizzaguy has been purposefully trying to get Innocents permab&, sow confusion, and make deals with the Mafia. He has no reason to not vote for you, or to vote the way he actually did - he's not helping the Innocent cause, at most he's just biding out his time as a joker, not a funny one like Genie though.

I don't think askthe pie guy really said those things.

Also, money really is relatively useless it seems.

edit @ cartharsis-- I haven't had communication with Cull. King Flevance for some rason gave me Cull's name, but it's also likely it was a random name given out.

And it's a much better target to get Zack and King right now. Duke Blackstone also either faked/got a real contact from King Flevance saying how king flevance was now sure Duke Blackstone was a mafia.

Duke made up some spiel to me about asking what to do, i.e. roll w/ it or w/e.

 

[Earthling]

I'm not inactive though. Why lynch me?

Spoiler :

Everyone voting for you, at least the 3-4 I've seen, are likely scum or allied with the Mafia. They are simply trying to create another bandwagon for distraction.

It won't work though, because Flevance and I are already too far ahead. Which is good that we get rid of Flevance, a likely killer, and I've made my peace with the forums.

For the record, I'd like to point out a couple other things in consideration of others I'm not accusing of being scum, to not be inconsistent. Blackstone I think is just new, and OMGUSing, still suspicious after day one but there's nothing between us.

Winston and ATPG are voting for me but I would not call this scummy (well, more than ATPG being joker-y) because they have problems with grudges and anger about previous games where they did so poorly.

In two previous games, they lynched several Innocents and subsequently the Innocents lost the game, might think they are somehow making up for it this time. (Including voting off me, as an Innocent, and an Innocent scanner, where I kept telling askthepizzaguy not to lynch Innocents and he did.) I think ATPG is a joker but a grudge from before is probably enough reason he's after me, just for the record.

But just because I need to say this every post, to make sure it's clear:

-Zack, Flevance, and their respective allies/minions are probably scum.
-Takhisis and Kennigit, and I'd guess tailless but they haven't said exactly who they all are, are almost certainly Innocent if the above are guilty, and credit to them for exposing scum.
-When I die, I'll be Innocent, so everything I've said is honestly what I've determined the best analysis for Innocents to be right now, from votes, abilities, and communication, all point to this setup being the most likely.

Inactives are kinda biding their time, hakuma matata like Pumbaa. But I'd say forget it and go with WoGing them now then, as long as remake promises to be fair and WoG inactive scum too. It'll get this over quicker at least, something broken about the Mafia/killers is probably already going to drag it out otherwise (but especially if we've caught Mafia here we could cripple them)

 

[Zack]

Earthling is saying I'm scum, and Takhisis, tailless, and Kennigit are "certainly innocent". Remember in the last NOTW when he claimed anyone who accused him was scum? And he gave a list of who he was certain was innocent, one of which turned out to be neutral, and one of which turned out to be mafia.

EDIT: And how has everyone let Duke Blackstone off so easily?

 

[Duke Blackstone]

You know, when he puts it all like that it kinda makes sense. Question fudruckers, whats OMGUSing mean? I am new to forum mafia obviously

 

[Earthling]

Earthling is saying I'm scum, and Takhisis, tailless, and Kennigit are "certainly innocent". Remember in the last NOTW when he claimed anyone who accused him was scum?

Your statement is inaccurate. Anyone who cares can read the following, but it's about a previous game, and isn't necessary for my or certainly not Zack's case here.

Spoiler :

I think you are referring to the game two games back. As anyone can actually read, everything I said about myself and everything that happened was truthful there. What did happen, I acknowledge this, was I accused askthepizzaguy of being scum, for leading lynches against like three Innocents. It turns out he was Innocent, but like six other people who voted against me, were mafia. Askthepizzaguy still gave items and help to the Mafia, unwittingly I guess, while not being one himself.

In other words, after I (the Innocent scanner) was lynched, if people had turned on those who lynched me, and I was claiming were mafia about 75% of the Mafia from multiple factions (Seon, Kennigit, CCRunner, Civplayah, Takhisis) would have been dead, and 2 or 3 extraneous Innocents on that bandwagon. And I only claimed two people as Innocent, one turned out Mafia (TFA, unfortunate) due to the GM giving false scan abilities, the other was Innocent (landlubber), and every "evil-motivated Innocent" I named as evil was evil (Diamondeye and Nictel)

A far better analogy, again, is something like the Star Wars game, where Bad Player said "Kill these Sith if I die" and nobody did. Let's not let that happen this time.

And did you have some personal goal, Captain Hook?

Edit: Regarding question about Duke Blackstone.

Gee, Zack, you let him off because as a scum you'd rather get rid of people threatening you? You're always free to unvote me and vote for him. You apparently don't think I'm scum and are voting based on bribes, so if you so want to go after him, do so.

But I think it's a far better call for the real Innocents to get rid of you and Flevance first - at the start of today we didn't know of the whole Flevance situation and some things behind the scene, and Blackstone is still suspicious. But he's low priority now, compared to you and your allies.

 

[Zack]

I don't even know what to say to you Earthling. Read my posts. You are acting scummy. It is fact. Stop lying about what I say.

 

[Cull]

I'm getting annoyed that I get lynch votes simply because I ignored this during the spam.

 

[King Flevance]

You both lied to Kennigit/Takhisis/tailless. And no, you seem to be quite wrong, because from what they've communicated, they are definitely looking at you as being one of the "killers."

Lies. I haven't even talked to Tailless. Tak I only spoke to when I sold him 2 votes on day 3. (The ONLY votes I have sold. I offered to sell my votes on day 2 because, well its day 2 and I need to make money in a secondary goal.) So Takhisis has been the only person to buy my votes. Other than that, we haven't spoken outside the thread.

You yourself were looking for bribes or a way to kill people, that's why I'm voting for you.

That is stretching the truth so far it is practically lying. Bribes = I sold my votes publicly. However, no one is able to purchase Takhisis's vote away from me. So in that respect you could actually say I am not susceptable to bribes. It is simply first come first serve if I do not care about the vote. I have already explained the other part. No need for a rehash. (Although I will 2 quotes down)

I haven't accused others of bribery, I've actually asked people like classical_hero who are honest and not involved in bribes.

That is hearsay. And you are conveniently pushing bribery claims on anyone that will pull you out of the fire.

You have no reason to go after me, except to buy time and spare your own hides.

Hah, my repuation is pretty blemished already from 1 small PM. If you get lynched tonight, I may still be lynched tomorrow even if it turns up you are mafia.

Let's have a look at this PM, on day 3 I suspect Kennigit is mafia due to his offer to pas out money on Night 2. On day 3 I send him a tell basically saying "I am a killer". Day 3... that would be stupid if I was killer. I even expected it to seem transparent. However, I must have underestimated how gullible this mob is. At any rate, Kennigit then proceeded to negotiations. It is possible that it was transparent and he used it to start all this. I don't think that is the case but it is certainly possible.

And Takhisis and Kennigit haven't been attacking random Innocents all game, so I'd rather go with them as Innocent, you as the liars and scum.

Nor have I, I missed day 1. Abstained day 2. Sold my votes to Takhisis on day 3. And had my own crap to take care of since day 4 started. As what I did is the reason all this is going on. I got the ball rolling. Probably because I am as awesome as I have been claiming.

Explain. Please.

You denied any contact to me when Kennigit contacted you. I wish I could see that conversation. You have been active and lurking most of the game.

Flevance: public role claim, perhaps?

The Low-Level Innocent
Goal: Survive, inflated ego.
Secondary Goal: Can't really tell but I have to make money for it. It is not to obtain the most.
Money: None.
Items: None.
Abilities: Goal related, has no effect on the game I don't think.

 

[Earthling]

I don't even know what to say to you Earthling. Read my posts. You are acting scummy. It is fact. Stop lying about what I say.

I'm not lying about what you said. You have lied several times about what I said, but I'll accept it because your scum, it's what you do. You are also trying to lie and obscure things about a previous game, but that doesn't and shouldn't matter, and I don't want to bother other players about that.

Here are things that have been publicly said by you or others, and you refuse to answer:

-You've been taking bribes to vote, you have not said who's doing the bribing or why as an "Innocent" it's so necessary for you to do this.
-You were "trying to find some scum" or thought Kennigit was scum, same with Takhisis, when they accuse you of being scum. Again, I'd side with them. Same thing with Flevance, he "pretended to be Mafia." I don't believe you two, I do believe them.
-You have no reason to vote for me and still have not even implied you had a real reason, it's bandwagonning. You won't admit you're just trying to save yourself and spare time though.

So again, when I'm not Mafia, you are taking the blame for being a scum bandwagonner. It'll make sense to everyone else. Mickey felt like coming back to say hi.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy has been purposefully trying to get Innocents permab&, sow confusion, and make deals with the Mafia

Gosh, it would b rilly grayt if you could last one whol3 pag3 without lying about m3.

I don't know ANY mafia, and I hasn't mad3 ANY d3als with ANYbody.

He has no reason to not vote for you, or to vote the way he actually did - he's not helping the Innocent cause, at most he's just biding out his time as a joker, not a funny one like Genie though.

YOU ar3 not h3lping th3 innoc3nt caus3 wh3n you just mak3 stuff up out of whol3 cloth.

Askthepizzaguy a while back said something about needing Mafia help to complete his personal goal.

I told you th3 LAST TIM3 you said this exact sam3 li3 to put up or shush up.

YOU WILL QUIT IGNORING M3, and 3xplain 3XACTLY WH3RE I SAID THIS, PL3AS3.

B3caus3 tha nixt tim3 you say this, without backing it up, I will be voting for you and only you until you di3, for th3 r3st of th3 gam3.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

SPAMMY SPAMMY SPAMM​

 

[remake20]

Really sorry. I went to write the update after the polycast and then my internet shut off and I was carless. It just now came back on, but I have to leave here very soon to go get my car and go somewhere for about 3 hours. So update will come in about 3 hours. I am very sorry.

 

[remake20]

And to make it a little easier for me. Voting is closed. Any votes after this point will not count. You HAVE had the 48 hours you should.

 

[Kennigit]

I support throwing pies into the faces of all those inactives.

Or as you guys might call it, I support those WoG candidates to be WoG'd. I think Romanichine said there were 5 inactives since day 1 and like 4 more that only posted once or something.

 

[Cull]

You denied any contact to me when Kennigit contacted you. I wish I could see that conversation. You have been active and lurking most of the game.
.

I didn't deny that. He asked if I had anything, I said LULZ NO. End of conversation as I see it.

And I lurk because half the time all this stuff goes over my head.

 

[Kennigit]

Well King Flevance, if you are an innocent you should at least contribute something in your death.

I wanted to hire you to kill people. You named a price. Innocents can't hire killers (and it appears there is no "hiring" system anyways; money is relatively worthless). You said I should perhaps try Cull about killing stuff--it was rather vague. Out of no where you said I should talk to Cull.

And so i explained a bit of the situation to Cull, and he did said LULZ NO. Implying you guys had *no* contact.

Buuuuutttttttttt if you guys DID have contact maybe you could explain the nature of it. Because so far I have
1) Zack being scummy to me and now randomly fighting with Earthling.
2) Duke Blackstone being scummy for a) you saying he was mafia or b) surviving a lynch randomly
3) choxorn--clearing up some but I'm still suspicious
4) wideye-- he apparently had randomesque votes first days and then is willing to kill me. Which it's half OMGUS on my part and half OMG he's with zack.
5) of course, King Flevance.

Some other people I should talk to more too. I haven't talked much w/ earthling so I have no idea waht exactly is going on. But I do know Zack is happy to kill me, kill earthling, kill link for some reason, etc. He has no regard for death.

Pie.

 

[Cull]

Ooh, that makes sense. facepalm. When I said LULZ NO I meant to if I had anything, not the contract King Flevrance thing.

On that note, he just asked me if I had anything, and I said no. I can't remember clearly though, so if the King would explain...

Why do you think I have anything?

 

[Earthling]

B3caus3 tha nixt tim3 you say this, without backing it up, I will be voting for you and only you until you di3, for th3 r3st of th3 gam3.

You're not a third-grader right? I was assuming you weren't, no offense if you are, just might be a premise that wasn't clear. At any rate, terrible reading comprehension is not going to help any cause, Innocents in particular.

I really loathe having to go back and quote stuff like this. In the last game where you were lying and I had to go quote a bunch of posts, the whole subject just ended up ignored anyway, and doesn't matter to the game. And in this game, it's like the second or third time you are perpetuating a clear misunderstanding of the game rules and info from the GM, and lying about what you're doing. Before somebody else pointed out you were misinformed or lying about the "killers" and now I have to do something similar again.

So, you said you had personal goals related to spam and helping the spam police or others make money. The rules say right here:

Spam Police
Don't get confused with these people with cops. You are not one of the following unless your role PM states so. Spam police will send me a spam post in the thread, and get paid for it. If you get this role you will learn more. So spamming might end up giving PCs to mafia.

Your role clearly could contribute to the Mafia, and more specifically, your actual permab& votes and all your posts are not pro-Innocent, you know that from randomly attacking me. Maybe you're not attacking me to work against Innocents in this game but just over a grudge, but as for what's been posted publicly, I've not told a single lie or untrue thing this entire game, just as in the past several.

askthepizzaguy, I can definitely say, even if I'm Mafia in some future game, I'm not going to lie about the game rules, nor edit people's quotes, and so on, it's just too low. I understand you are probably some joker and I'm dealing with Mafia here, but that's too annoying, you and others should really stop doing it. You make Donald Duck cry.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy a while back said something about needing Mafia help to complete his personal goal.

For th3 last tim3, WH3R3 DID I SAY THIS????

You're not a third-grader right? I was assuming you weren't, no offense if you are, just might be a premise that wasn't clear. At any rate, terrible reading comprehension is not going to help any cause, Innocents in particular.

R3port3d for trolling. Thanks for making this gam3 fun.