The eleven ancient wonders of the world

h4ppy said:
Don't use that culturally correct naming stuff. It is and always will be called Easter Island.

And don't say Indonesia, it is really Netherlands East Indies! ;)
 
Dann said:
Aw, just keep piling them on. That way, everyone's happy. :)

lol

Wonder of ancient world number 321762 - First dildo discovered
(That thread on whether stone object was in fact a dildo)
 
Going back to the original question on whether the other four wonders desrve to be on the list. The answer is no. The Throne Room of Persepolis (which by all accounts was the most impressive building in the world for those 150 years in which it stood) was probably overlooked because Herodotus of Halicarnassus probably couldn't enter there. The Easter Island heads are not ancient. Abu Simbel is not on par with any of them. And Borobudor isn't ancient either.
 
It's Herodotus' list. Full dues to him. But we know more today and I'd certainly draw up a longer list.
 
Not Herodotus, who died before some of them were constructed, but Antipater of Sidon.
 
h4ppy said:
Wait, why do they list the leaning tower? Its not a wonder, its a accident that is doomed to eventual collapse.

You've obviously never been to Pisa. I know it is mainly noted for the leaning tower, but the Piazza di Miracoli would count as a wonder of the world in my book even if the tower wasn't leaning.
 
Actually there were several ancient Greek lists of the Seven Wonders of the World. Many of the things listed were duplicated of course, but there never was a single generally accepted list.

The Egyptian Labyrinth for instance made the list at times – that's the temple complex surrounding Amenhotep the III's pyramid. Bunch of rubble these days. I've been there. The human bones and scraps of mummy wrapping strewn around the site did make for a peculiar... ambience... though.
 
A'AbarachAmadan said:
Here's an even longer list of 'wonders' to visit. Don't know who makes these lists, but it would be cool to visit all 57 of these. The person who compiled this has definately done some traveling. Guess I need to wait till I retire, I'm only at 18 of the ones on his list. Great Wall Marathon next May should yield one more. :)

http://www.raphaelk.co.uk/main/worldwonders.htm

I notice that it describes Stonehenge as "medieval". That's a rather radical theory- worthy of Garry Denke, in fact.
 
well, I think it describes when a certian thing was considered a wonder (in which case, the thing is still erroneous) as its a certianty that Romans didnt give a spearshaft about the damned thing, after they were sure all the druids who went about using it were driven off.
 
verbose said:
Actually there were several ancient Greek lists of the Seven Wonders of the World. Many of the things listed were duplicated of course, but there never was a single generally accepted list.

The Egyptian Labyrinth for instance made the list at times – that's the temple complex surrounding Amenhotep the III's pyramid. Bunch of rubble these days. I've been there. The human bones and scraps of mummy wrapping strewn around the site did make for a peculiar... ambience... though.

From what I've understood, I agree. As far as I know there are/were 5 commonly accepted wonders and 4 disputed one. I'll have to check my sources on two of the disputed ones but the other two I know by heart:
The hanging gardens of Babylon/the golden walls of Babylon. Obvious the gardens reached further fame than the golden walls, but both were strong contenders a for the slot wonder #6.

I'll check up on which two wonders battled for #7.
 
Kafka2 said:
I notice that it describes Stonehenge as "medieval". That's a rather radical theory- worthy of Garry Denke, in fact.

Watch out! If you say his name too loud you'll summon him!

I'm not sure about putting the Northern Lights on the list, primarily because the Southern Lights are missed out. I've seen the Southern Lights and they weren't all that amazing (though still striking) - but perhaps they were having an off night. Also, I don't know why Krakatoa Island is marked as N/A, as it's perfectly possible to go there (not that there's all that much left of it, admittedly). And why the North Sea Protection Works is considered a Modern Wonder while the Eiffel Tower is a *forgotten* Modern Wonder...

Oh, and the Channel Tunnel...?
 
Many large temples didnt qualify, like some in Sicily, and the Parthenon, although the Parthenon is slighly smaller i think than the bigger ones. The temple of Artemis though probably was the biggest of all the ancient greek temples.
 
aaglo said:
I think that the Colosseum (circus) of Rome would have qualified also as one of the ancient 7 wonders too.

Tough the coloseum was/is a remarkable structure, it was build much later than any of the 9 wonders of the world (I don't have the date in my head, but well into the years AD)
 
thought you guys might want to see this:

The 9 wonders of the world

1. The Temple of Artemis in Efesos
2. Fidias Statue of Zeus in Olympia
3. The Pyramids of Egypt
4. King Mausollos Mausoleum in Halikarnassos
5. The Collosal Statue of Helios the Sun God on Rhodes
6. Semiramis Hanging Gardens
7. The Great Lighthouse on Faros
8. The Golden Walls of Babylon
9. King Kyros Golden Palace.

Usually most list the first five and then either 6 and 7 or 8 and 9. So a list would look something like this:


1. The Temple of Artemis in Efesos
2. Fidias Statue of Zeus in Olympia
3. The Pyramids of Egypt
4. King Mausollos Mausoleum in Halikarnassos
5. The Collosal Statue of Helios the Sun God on Rhodes
6. Semiramis Hanging Gardens/The Golden Walls of Babylon
7. The Great Lighthouse on Faros/King Kyros Golden Palace.
 
superisis said:
Tough the coloseum was/is a remarkable structure, it was build much later than any of the 9 wonders of the world (I don't have the date in my head, but well into the years AD)

It's still ancient, though. Antiquity doesn't stop at AD 1. It's normal to regard approximately the first to the fifth centuries AD as late antiquity.
 
I know that, but I interpreted the statement to say that the Coloseum could have qualified towards the list of 7 (or 9, or whatever) wonders of the world, that were written by Herodotus, et al, or who ever, even though it was built long after the peak and decline of Greek civilization (in the general sense, naturally since greece and anatolia were important greek parts of the Roman empire).
 
Kafka2 said:
I notice that it describes Stonehenge as "medieval". That's a rather radical theory- worthy of Garry Denke, in fact.

Some almanac had the Great Wall of China as one of the 7 wonders of the medieval world as well. The whole thing was finished by 220 AD for sure, besides modern patchups. I need to find that almanac...
 
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