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I have found this great assessment of the Left ideology by the Russian blogger Kirill Kaminets. Here is the assessment itself:
"A leftist wants the society to be ruled by those who Know the Truth. Not only they have to know the truth but they also should be righteous. I've already wrote that left singularity, the highest degree of left idea purified from everything unnecessary, incarnated in Zhang Xianzhong who was the leader of peasant rebellion in China in 17th century. First he robbed the rich and gave their riches to poor. Then he was killing (and sometimes eating) rich people as a punishment for exploiting the poor. Then he eradicated state employees and other "intelligentsia" -- because they did not support his ideas enough, and, of course, for the lack of righterousness.
And what those ideas were? Honest leftism spelled to the last letter. «Left singularity». Zhang Xianzhong's ideology was written on the «Stele of seven kills», he formulated it himself:
The heaven gives to men countless goods.
Men have not anything to thank the heaven.
Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.
Change «Heaven» to «Nature» or «Society» (or whatever is popular in the leftist trend now) and you get a universal manifesto for every left movement in history. After «intelligentsia» Xianzhong moved to poor people whom he cut arms, legs and ears for insufficient gratefullness. A little later he started to flay his own comrades. Xianzhong dispeopled the province Sichuan. From three millions of people only several tens of thousand have left alive. Everyone else he exterminated with artificial hunger, torture and mass murders.
If you think leftists need sound ideologies, mass society or industrialization to reach heights of Pol Pot, you are mistaken. If you think that the goal of left movements is something other than 殺 殺 殺 殺 殺 殺 殺 you are also mistaken. In the left system of morality the price of human is based on his «piety». The more one hates himself and others of his kind - the better. To harm your own social class to please the masses is good. To betray you nation by supporting other -- even better. As far as I see it, currently the highest degree of leftism is environmentalism: when a leftist tzadik reaches the level of self-condemnation when he begins to hate the very biological essense of his kind and values plants and animals more than humans."
So, let's discuss. I think he have covered most points of Leftism. What do you think? Is there anything to add?
This post gave me cancer.
The rightist wants mankind to transcend itself, the centrist wants mankind to be mankind and the leftist wants mankind to transcend nothing.
Thanks to this post, it is now metastasizing.
Pretty much everything including Social-Nationalism and Fascism (which from reactionary point of view are typical left movements).
Take, for example, environmentalism with its obsession with climate change. If they were given real power they would seriously pursue stopping using oil and natural gas which would quickly crash world economy and kill billions.
No they wouldn't. Next strawman please.
Like fascism, the use of force is purely leftist, I assume.
Is this sarcasm?
Not true at all leaders will emerge through sheer force of character or charisma, to stop that from happening and maintain equality you will need force.
So? Simply being charismatic isn't wrong. It's the creation of violent hierarchies that is wrong. And must be abolished, by force if necessary (hint: it's necessary).
Inequality doesn't need to be maintained, it's the natural state.
It's a (silly) Marxist myth that our modern liberal state "enforces" class distinctions and uses violence and threats of violence to "maintain inequality". The opposite is true. Our state exists to protect the weak from the strong. To limit the power of the strong.
The "natural state" is not one where "egalitarian mobs" take everything for themselves. It's one where the strongest (and eventually the smartest) lord over everyone else.
Yea, no. Personal property is impossible without the state. Look at your average hunter gatherer society for an example.
Haha, good one. The defense of private property matches Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. I just drove by a "private property killing field" next to a Walmart. Thousands of skulls piled up.
Haha. Oh, Marxists. Don't ever change.
Meanwhile, 25,000 people will die of starvation today because of global capitalism and private property. But tell me more about how crapitalism dindu nuffin.
Pinochet over decades killed less people than Stalin did in one day in Katyn. And what "enemies of the nation" are being killed in the defense of private property? What are you smoking? Where are the private property killing fields? The private property GULAG?
Yes, Marxist-Leninism is the only form of communism or leftism. Anarcho-communism don't real. Makhno who?
You want your killing fields? Go to the third world. There you will find the killing fields of capitalism.
As Gandhi said, "Poverty is the worst form of violence."