@Timsup2nothin, I agree there is no ultimate objective measure, but there are clear cases on either side. The lack of an objective measure doesn't that doesn't mean you have to just go with how someone feels. There are lots of tools you have to evaluate the situation, and a lot of things to consider. As an analogy, there isn't an objective measure of a great movie. Any attempt to try to define what those parameters are is probably a waste of time and someone could probably come up with counter examples. But some movies are still great, and others are not. Even though I can't define it, I'm more than happy to claim as a matter of fact that "Battlefield Earth" is not a great movie. It simply isn't. You might think it is, you might feel really strong that it is, but you're just wrong. In that thread, Mary wasn't bullied. She might have felt that she was, she might think that she was, but she wasn't. I didn't see her bullied a single time by a single person. She stated her opinion, at times most people agreed, at other times many did not. She always had at least a couple people supporting her, and those who disagreed always disagreed with her ideas and claims. All of you people suggesting that she was bullied, I've personally seen you disagree with someone on this forum in a much more aggressive way than anything Mary faced in that thread.