I don't think it needs nerfing. You can take all the fight out of them by either taking suze away or killing their city-states.
I don't either.
I don't think it needs nerfing. You can take all the fight out of them by either taking suze away or killing their city-states.
I don't think it needs nerfing. You can take all the fight out of them by either taking suze away or killing their city-states.
Ed and Carl were on Prince. AIs were both on EmperorWhat difficulty setting were they playing in?
Ed and Carl were on Prince. AIs were both on Emperor
I still don't quite understand this setting. What difference does it make what difficulty level Carl and Ed were on? This isn't SMAC where player difficulty level incurs happiness penalties and such. Only the AI gets bonuses or penalties based on difficulty level. So does it make any difference what difficulty Ed and Carl were on? Isn't this effectively an Emperor game?
I still don't quite understand this setting. What difference does it make what difficulty level Carl and Ed were on? This isn't SMAC where player difficulty level incurs happiness penalties and such. Only the AI gets bonuses or penalties based on difficulty level. So does it make any difference what difficulty Ed and Carl were on? Isn't this effectively an Emperor game?
I really dont see any weaknesses to Hungary in this particular stream. Ed messed up Carl’s game, which is already a victory - doesn’t matter that he didn’t conquer anything, Canada is not coming back from that. And Eleanor was pretty much falling under his military pressure in the end.Great stream. I really enjoyed watching it. Thank you Firaxis, I appreciate it.
As for Hungary, I don't think they need a nerf at all. We seen the limitations of Hungary today. On certain maps, yes they will indeed be very strong. Like the one Marbozir played (and we don't know how many rerolls he did behind the scenes to get that map). This map was more challenging with many mountains and rough terrain, not to mention online speed which slowed down levied units. Losing steam in your attack when you are only 1/3 of the way complete is very rough.
As for religious victory mentioned above, I'm happy that there is a defense against religious victory like that. I thought that was very cool to levy troops to prevent religious victory. I see no problem with the condemn heretic mechanic. It was just the right amount of tension that they could very well have lost that game.
Canada is not coming back from that.
I think if one was a lower level they'd get bonuses and such. I don't know that it makes a difference for a level above prince (except for determining what level of AI replaces you).I still don't quite understand this setting. What difference does it make what difficulty level Carl and Ed were on? This isn't SMAC where player difficulty level incurs happiness penalties and such. Only the AI gets bonuses or penalties based on difficulty level. So does it make any difference what difficulty Ed and Carl were on? Isn't this effectively an Emperor game?
True, but Canada is a pretty weak civ to begin with. Probably the weakest in Gathering storm? I would say so. Mali with the 51% prod. nerf is close, but that is supposedly fixed now. Phoenicia is pretty weak, but still has a better early game than Canada. Canada is extremely weak in multiplayer especially.
I still don't quite understand this setting. What difference does it make what difficulty level Carl and Ed were on? This isn't SMAC where player difficulty level incurs happiness penalties and such. Only the AI gets bonuses or penalties based on difficulty level. So does it make any difference what difficulty Ed and Carl were on? Isn't this effectively an Emperor game?
When having the ability to settle more cities than normal then being able to do it again on another continent without having to go to declare war is considered weak.
*giggle snort*
I get it though because her abilities at first glance do look a little “that’s nice but gimmicky” . I had to sit down and have a think about her before I started thinking about how all her parts come together and where her power lies.
But if you aren’t particularly invested in the Civ, you probably won’t do that. I certainly didn’t with Canada for example, and while I wouldn’t say they are “weak”, I don’t know where their cool little interactions are so I can totally see how it happens.
Heck look at Hungary, they were written off somewhat early by a few until it was seen in action!
It probably happened less in Rise and Fall because it was much more “X% buff to this”.