The list of politically incorrect ideas for Civ3

[Vinc]

And that's why it's silly to exclude Hitler. Because this game (among other things) is about satirizing world history. And what is more entertaining than the bits that really hurt bad? And boy, did WWII hurt badly.

Another thing about this: there still are some Jewish people that went in concentration camps that are alive. That wouldn't be politically correct at all, also for the memory of those who died in concentration camps, and for their family.

But, there are not many people who can say that one of their family members was killed when Julius Caesar invaded Gallia. I think the worst is when people are killed without good reasons. For conquests, it's not so bad. But it's worst when the leader of a well-armed country decides to kill someone just because he doesn' like him. That would be politically incorrect. It happened in ancient Rome, it still happens today...

Mainly, it's only a question of people remembering or not.

 

[Strik]

The birth of Strik the MAD scientist

 

[adamsj]

Originally posted by rmsharpe
Reagan? Politically incorrect? Bah.

He'd be demonized by all the left-wingers, which would probably end up becoming politically incorrect to like Ronald Reagan.

I'd say the most incorrect leader of the United States would be Franklin Roosevelt...Reagan never locked up Japanese in quasi-concentration camps...

need I say more!

 

[Ared Mosinel]

For those who oppose the idea of un-PC elements in Civilization:

I'm sorry to say that human history is more a chain of atrocities and excesses than civilized interaction.
One of the greatest challenges current day world leaders face is how to cope with foes who use these atrocities as weapons.
That is why tech's like terrorism, ethnic cleansing and propoganda should play a part in Civ 3 just like medicine, democray and religion.

So my un-PC city improvement would be:
* concentration camp (preq. Ethnic Cleansing)
unhappy foreign nationals in conquered cities "disappear" at a rate of 1 per camp per turn. Should other civ's discover a camp, you are immediately ineligable for the UN-counsil, unless you "contribute" >25 gold/turn to the UN.

 

[Eugenevdebs]

I'm jewish and I think it's important to include jew jokes in any politically incorrect mod pack. In fact, I have already designed a

"Jewish Conspiracy" government wherein you get a huge trade bonus

Or heck why not a Civ called "Jews" with a UU The Ark of The Covenant? And give it special bank building powers?(Perhaps the Jewish Conspiracy govt allows you to build Wall Street. Wouldn't that piss off the Pharoah and the Germans?)
Or why not have a pogrom that makes you immune to espionage because the assumption is that all the jews are spies?

Or, jumping to another subject, why not emphasize Catherine the Great's propensity for equine copulation?

Heck, why not have the "One Child Policy" or "Roe v. Wade" and as well "Overturned Roe v. Wade"

Why not make Jesus a special leader unit?

Why not make Moses an amphibious unit?

Why not make the Beer Hall and the Beer Hall Putsch, and here's a way to be really politically incorrect: Include a Mexican civ.


(apologies all around)

 

[57%]

lol! That was great!

On the subject of conspiracies as grist for the Civ mill - Illuminati, Knights Templar, Rosecrucians, Hospitalers, Masons ...

And on the American scene, the Vast Liberal Media and left-wing University Professors that INVENTED the concept of "P.C." in the first place (if you believe the incessant rantings of right-wing radio talk show hosts).

 

[Ripley1]

Sorry, but I dont think there is such a thing
(theres always going to be some story about one of them sleeping with his slaves or some hidden mass grave somewhere)
-you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs-

 

[Richard III]

Originally posted by The Last Conformist
City Improvement: "McDonald's" - happifies two citizens, but production suffers due to immense obesity.\

Wins my vote as funniest CivFanatics suggestion so far!!!

P.S. It's amazing how hard done by the Canadian left feels. "Mulroney, Harris and Klein worse than any American in the last fifty years." What a sick joke, even from a leftist perspective: none of those guys ever eliminated the rand formula, all three spend a fortune on public services compared to many US states or (in BM's case, the feds), none ever delisted a major medicare service, sent arms to genocidal regimes, called up reservists to invade foreign countries (or made the decision to invade one, for that matter) etc, etc, etc. I could literally go on for hours...

I don't mind if you want to pollute a beautiful thing like CivFanatics with your leftist kaka, but at least make it INFORMED leftist kaka.

Richard III
(which is the English leader's name I always used in Civ2, and somewhat politically incorrect, but I digress)

 

[Ripley1]

One might find these guys distasteful:

Osama "has" bin laden, leader of Al Queda
famous last quote to Pakistani Intelligence agent "Is that an Indian rocket I hear overhead?"
wonder: terrosist camp, prerequisite: brainwashing
special unit: Taliban fighter

Kim Il Sung, leader of North Korea
wonder: Korean 5 year plan (lowers food requirement for citizens to 1, considering they can get by eating neighbors dogs and tree bark)
special unit: Long Dong rocket-inacurate, but whoever it hits wont be happy

"In"fidel Casto, leader of Cuba- I dont think he was mentioned yet
wonder: cigar factory (they do have good cigars)
special unit: old chevy (rigged with bombs)

 

[maracle]

I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe this is redundant. But for america, we could have the trail of tears or japanese internment as wonders. Of course, this thread has gone more from un-PC ideas to most-unfortunate-historical-events-in-history ideas...

 

[Arrian]

Ripley-

A variant of the omlette quote that I've heard attributed to Mao (I am paraphrasing):

"No, the trick is getting the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omlettehood."

Whether or not he actually said that, it's pretty funny.

-Arrian

 

[Civilizator]

Special spy unit: Monica Lewinsky

Required advances: spionage and political manipulation

(political manipulation requires democracy and Television wonder
= 600 hundred shields)

When succesful, a Monica Lewinsky spy unit produces two turns of anarchy in the enemy civ, five turns if the civ is religious

SOOOOOOOOOORRY

 

[gorilladf]

Great Wonder: Microsoft. Req. Communism, Corporation, and Devilworship!


I think it's fine to have all these leaders. I would love the chance to destroy them! Just because they are evil doesn't mean you have to play as them!

I would also be DAM proud to be able to complete the great wonder of World Trade Center. I don't see that as being UnPC.

Would it be PC to build the Petroniz(sp?) Towers?

I think it's a great time to have some sort of patriotic wonder that helps raise happiness levels.

My $.02

 

[tetley]

New civs:

Afganistan civ, w/ Osama Bin Laden -- free Espionage. That's politically incorrect (also inappropriate, but that's beside the point. ).
Oh yeah, and make Mullah Omar a great leader.
Argentina civ. No one leads it.
Antarctica civ. Always starts in tundra, a penguin leads it. Global warming starts its Golden Age.

New Wonders:
Creationism -- Ancient Wonder, 2 free techs
Civ3 -- Modern Age Wonder, renders 2 citizens in every rival city useless.
SPCA -- Industrial Age Wonder. Makes all "Game" and "Fur" resource squares disappear.
Electronic balloting machines -- Industrial Age small Wonder, right after Universal Suffrage is built.
Without this wonder, every so often all Democracies go into Anarchy while they recount ballots.
Save the Trees -- cutting down forest is no longer possible until you plant forest somewhere.
Paid athletes -- All cities with Universities give you the option to increase their culture output, in exchange for increased corruption.

New tech:
Homosexuality, goes right after Genetics. Makes all citizens male.
Abortion, goes right after Sanitation. Lets you opt out of growing your cities' population.

 

[Zouave]

Actually, a post-Genetic Engineering Small Wonder could be ending homosexual by correcting the problems IN THE WOMB before birth.


Funny, good old Sid had no problem including war criminal and mass murderer Mao as a leader, but he didn't want Hitler.

Rome: try Nero, Caligula, or Commodus. All maniacs.

 

[Furry Spatula]

"In"fidel Casto, leader of Cuba- I dont think he was mentioned yet

Actually i think that batista would be a better candidate for Cuba.

Now who was that guy in South America captured in britain a few years ago? Pinochet, for Chile.


we can have some knew wonders and events

The Argentina Economy, this happens if a civ has too much corruption. All income is lost so most improvements will be lost. To get out of this you need to have about 5 great leaders to be "sacrificed" and kicked out of office.

Green peace- Great Wonder - you have placed green peace members in all other civs for a price of 1000 a civ. This no longer allows them to use oil and once a city creates pollution, it goes into civil dissorder for 5-15 turns. unless you have a courthouse, in which case any prisons will become "over crowded" when arresting activists

Prisons - Improvement - reduce curruption but when they become over crowded 1 unhappy citizen is made.

WTO - Small wonder - everytime it is created a capital or largest city, choice made randomly, in a randomly chosen civ is in dissorder for 5 turns.

Horrible Leader - When this occurs a civ experiences massive amounts of curruption untill the leader is used. They include Jean Cretien(im canadian so its ok for me to make this joke ) Clinton, Nevile Chamberlain ... well you can help me think of more of them

Acutally nevile chamberlain seems like a good leader for the british if its unPC.

And also The UN is not used any more, Instead you have the league of nations, which allows any country that builds it to have the option to not honor Protection Pacts.

 

[zebomba]

Heh, now it's a funny thread.
Going on with the BS:

Brazilian civ
Leader: Fernando Collor
Wonders: Soccer madness (prerequisite: ball) and Carnival all year long. (prerequisite: eternal partying). When built, those wonders cut production in half but doubles commerce, corruption and waste, and all citizens in the civ are not only content, they're all happy . The soccer madnness wonder expires after 1998.
Population growth is doubled after eternal carnival is built .
Special unit: stunning women. Each one you possess make a citizen in one enemy city useless.

 

[Wolfe Tone]

What about a wonder (or small wonder) of the Spanish Inquisition. Science rate is halved but culture and/or happiness increases. I'm not sure how PC (or Un-PC) this is but it's all I can think of OK

 

[Cunobelin Of Hippo]

Great stuff!

How about the Chernobyl wonder? Requires 5 nuke plants and 5 turns of anarchy. Then, 10 turns later, you start producing some "different" units from that city... Glow Rider! Impotent Infantry! Immune to getting bagged..

 

[Marzipan]

how about this one, a new small wonder . . .

The National Inquirer (or maybe call it The Tabloid Press): Turns a discontent or content citizen to happy in every city, but decreases effect of universities and libraries by half

. . . and does culture always have to be so high brow? Why are pop, kitsch, and redneck culture ignored? You should be able to build those culture points with city improvements like. . .

Liberace Museum
Truck Stop
Rodeo
Trailer Park
Cinema Megaplex
Wax Museum
"House of Wierdness" (gravitational "anomaly" museum)

. . . new small wonders like: Biggest Ball of Rubberbands, Worlds Tallest Thermometer, Tupperware (same effect as granary), Microwavable Food (25% increase in shield production)

. . . new great wonders like: Elvis Presley, Mall of America, Grand Ol' Opry House