The NES Wiki - Get Wiki With It

[Luckymoose]

@cyclotron7: I have looked at your NES in the past and sorry to say have no interest in it at all. It seems the NESes on that forum are not up to the standards of this forum. No offense but the best bet would be to migrate over and play here. We have a huge active community compared to anywhere else. And over ten active NESes at any one time. I would be glad to help you convert your NES over to this forum, including better maps and rules and whatever else if you want the help. Best outcome for you if you wish to NES is to just jump over here for good.

@ Symphony: Give me something on the wiki to do and I will attempt it. I never did anything due to lack of knowledge of what everyone else is doing. So please if you want help fill me in or something.

 

[cyclotron7]

No offense taken. We're just a few people over at Poly, and with rather irregular schedules. I take a fairly lax attitude toward HRE NES, like a long-term D&D game among friends; the game is constantly a work in progress. Rules are occasionally changed by consensus, or added when the existing rules aren't sufficient to the task. To be honest, one of the reasons I've never played here is that I find the stricter standards and large numbers of people rather intimidating. The array of threads and the hundreds of responses here is bewildering; I wouldn't know where to start.

I also made HRE NES as a last minute attempt to help out the community; I had just started NESing when the forum seemed to die. I jumped in as a new mod with a new NES in order to try and keep some semblance of activity in the forum, not because I had any illusions as to the quality of my modding or the standards of my NES. In that respect I think it's been something of a success, though one NES can't rebuild the community by itself. I'm not sure how much longer the game will last, not to mention the S&D forum generally, but we had some fun and that's sufficient for me.

 

[Symphony D.]

Retroactive deletion.

 

[Luckymoose]

Well maybe I am to lazy to do something extra-curricular without orders to do so. Or something like that. I will start tonight with filling things out.

 

[Nylan]

@Thlay: I remember Strategic Command Center from back in the day...shortly after a hacker almost destroyed the site in fact. I sortof helped to foster what little NESing I could there, but I was a n00b after all, and not a very bright one. I'll have to go check it out and maybe see if anyone remembers me, since I left there around the same time I left CFC.

@Cyclotron: That's how I remember it as well. More relaxed NESes (a format I quite enjoy, to be honest), and a few key players. When I popped in for a short season in 2004 there was only one NES, and the only players were mrmitchell, Micha, Tacc (then Comrade Tassadar), foolish_icarus, and bipolarbear.

With both these sites I might be able to help out with some cross-site friendship, but until my shedule clears up I won't be able to join anything on a different forum.

@Symph: I'm absolutely horrible with any sort of code, but I will do what little I can to help update pages. As my knowledge of NESes is somewhat limited, my aid will most likely be limited to player's pages, but I will see what I can do.

Is there any way to get the wiki stickied? being able to see it on the top of the page all the time might remind people to take a look and fix what they can.

 

[Symphony D.]

Retroactive deletion.

 

[Nylan]

I figured it was something like that.

Has/can Gelion put it into the first post of the NESing Guide? I see he is slowly returning to the forum.

Then again, I do see your point. Nobody ever pays attention. Like I said, I will do what little I can.

 

[Symphony D.]

Retroactive deletion.

 

[Nylan]

I agree. However, the notice thread is stickied, and the wiki is not.

 

[Symphony D.]

Retroactive deletion.

 

[Symphony D.]

Retroactive deletion.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Ooh, sorry.

Is there a job I could do which would be useful and doesn't need to be undone?

 

[Symphony D.]

Retroactive deletion.

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Okay, people. Don't say I never did anything for you.

Through the magic of Java and regular expressions, I wrote up a webcrawler to automate most of the work of creating NES pages. Now, all I have to do is copy and paste in the spiffy little pages that are now on the wiki, with modder's name and thread link. Now all we need is some content...

If anyone besides me has access to Java (and I mean the SDK, not just the web applets) and some basic java knowledge, they should PM me and I'll send them the code.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Sorry, all I've ever done is Actionscript.

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Sorry, all I've ever done is Actionscript.

Doesn't really matter. As people add on more NESes (the list is only up to #120), I can add the individual pages.

 

[LightFang]

So how does your nifty little webcrawler thing work? What exactly does it do?

 

[jalapeno_dude]

So how does your nifty little webcrawler thing work? What exactly does it do?

Well, it's a modification of a previous program, so it's probably not the most efficient. But it works. Basically, using a bunch of built-in Java classes, it loads http://forums.civfanatics.com/forum...1&pp=200&sort=dateline&order=asc&daysprune=-1. This is the NESing forum sorted in a non-standard way. Then it checks the source code for certain patterns. Since I've already built the main structure of the webcrawler, finding the right pattern to use is what takes time (probably about an hour or two in this case). I find the name, thread starter, and thread ID of each NES, then output them in the format of the pages I used on the wiki. Then all I have to do is copy and paste. This outputs the first 100 or so NESes (actually less, since it's every thread started on the NES forum). Then I just run it again for http://forums.civfanatics.com/forum...2&pp=200&sort=dateline&order=asc&daysprune=-1, etc.

If you're interested, I'll send you the program. You'll probably need to know both Java and regular expressions for it to make more sense, though.

 

[LightFang]

That sounds really nifty and useful!

However, I have done no work at all with Java and regular expressions. Sorry. But thanks for explaining it in a layperson's terms.

Now, we just need some more computer-literate people to storm in and take over!

 

[jalapeno_dude]

That sounds really nifty and useful!

However, I have done no work at all with Java and regular expressions. Sorry. But thanks for explaining it in a layperson's terms.

Now, we just need some more computer-literate people to storm in and take over!

Well, I'm sure Symphony D. will comment.

In terms of computer-literate people, I know Niklas is MUCH more experienced at programming than I am (I think he's doing his Ph.D. work on it), and I think Erik Mesoy knows some programming.