The pre-AFSNES I.

Damn. Back to the ol' drawing board I guess. I'll have a new civilization for you soon.
 
Please, as i say - it would be very useful for me :)
 
Great update das! And it goes to show I was right in my assumptions about my orders. The broad stuff I painted got in the update, whereas the details that I thought were to much but didn't want to leave out seems to have been completely ignored. Just as I hoped. :thumbsup:

Damn. Back to the ol' drawing board I guess. I'll have a new civilization for you soon.
Sorry about that, and thanks for not staying around to rebel. ;)
 
Hey wow - everything worked pretty much as I wanted to. Cool beans - and an excellent update, das.

BTW, since I won't be having Internet access for awhile, do you mind holding off on the deadline until next week or so?
 
OOC: Are you serious dachspmg? :eek:
 
OOC: What alex said. Next week?!?? :eek:
 
OOC: You're motivating people just to crush you so you won't make such requests :( Next week? :cry:

Couldn't you just get NORMAL (not 3 PMs' worth of) orders in?
 
No, but it does take a long time to get to Louisiana.

I suppose tomorrow might work, or Saturday. Jeez, stop unloading on me, people!
 
OOC: It's not our fault you make yourself the target of criticism ;) I'm semi-joking fyi
 
Eh. Whatever.

Besides, if things go even remotely similarly to this turn, I'll have a "Global Problem" PM or some such to answer, and that ain't gonna happen until I can actually get to a place that is attached to the Intarweb.
 
Dachs, even though the Athanoi are foederati (which I anticipated and accepted in my paltry orders :p), I still intend to write about them and their culture. So, you treat my fierce horsemen right, or I shall become very cross and have to kill you. They're religiously honest anyway, they shouldn't be a problem. Other than that, crush our enemies and so forth.

@ das - Wonderful update. I'll only create a new nation if this little culture disappears, though I must say it is kind of a relief to write stories and not worry about orders ;)
 
Oh, that's the nature of the relationship? You stay in charge? ;) Ummm...okay...so long as your stories say good things about Romans, and we get to keep you around on our side, no problems here.
 
They'll mostly be about religion and culture, but all stories will be pro-Rome as long as you leave us to our God(s) and let us ride down our enemies :D
 
If our enemies are your enemies, have at them!
 
OOC: In real life I'm a Roman Catholic, but this diplomacy is IC. I also have a question- of the powers in the Eastern Meditteranian, who's playing which? I am considering ambitions in that direction.

Note: Edited due to error.

From Karung
To Nubia, and the Jewish remants in Arabia

The mighty King of Karung has reclaimed it's lands in Palestine, and restored our empire to some shadow of the glory our legends tell of. While Karung is commited to alliance with Nubia, I propose a renegotiation on these terms:

1: With the exception of the land linked by land to the Jewish capital in the region, all Israeli land in Arabia goes to Nubia.

2: Israel will permit Nubia to annex the rest of the west coast of Arabia at it's leisure.

3: Axum will survive and be given the right to expand south against the Cushites, however it must pay a tribute to Nubia for it's continued existence.

No party should forget that should Israel refuse, Karung has the force of it's armies to send against the Jewish people, who will be obliterated despite their "God". A weakling God who could not save his people in their ancesteral home will not save you in a foreign country.
 
Question : D`mt no longer exists, right? It is now a successor state?

At least thats what I get out of it being a jewish rebellion, since d`mt wasnt jewish. If so, can I get information on my country?
 
OOC: J eps, you're Axum now and we are closer allied.

IC:

To Karung

Who do you think you are? You trespass agains the lands granted the House of Israel by the Lord, Master of the Universe, denying the will of the Lord and disgracing His most holy name and word, then desecrating the Kodesh Hakodeshim [1] with abandon, and then you act as if you are in the moral right? Furthermore, you act as if we are some measely, pathetic nation you can simply right off? We are still the greatest naval power of the Red Sea, our fleets still command the waves from Ezion Geber to the Gates of Tears. You may have won in the Eretz [2], but you will never be able to win on the seas, where the All Mighty Lord crushed the Leviathin and granted His Chosen People dominion. The Light of Eretz Yisra'el will never surrender to the darkness of Mitzrayim [3], dear friends. Surrender now, return Eretz to its rightful rulers, and cease your nefarious ways.

Signed and Sealed,
King Shlomo ben Rehav'am​

[1] - Holy of Holies, specifically an area of the Temple that is so holy only the Kohen Gadol, High Priest, may enter it, and only once a year after special purifcation rituals. Here it is used generally to refer to the Temple and the Temple Mount.
[2] - Shortened form of Eretz Yisra'el meaning the Land of Israel.
[3] - Hebrew for Egypt. It's a somewhat poetic reference litteraly meaning "The Two Straights" and refers to Upper and Lower Egypt. Here used to connect Karung to the Ancient Egyptians who enslaved/are believed to have enslaved the Israelites.
 
From Karung
To the pitiful Jewish remnant

I acknowledge you have won the battle of the sea, but only by building a great fleet then Nubia could. If we put the manpower of Karung and the cedars of Lebanon at their disposal, they will crush you on the sea like a bug.

On land, you are doomed. The land of Karung is hot, and so the deserts of Arabia will probably be little defence. If the desert does stop us, we can always hire mercenaries from the Arabs and Arameans. Do you wish your people to end up in slavery?

As for morality, your people rebelled first. All the world rightly belongs to our dynasty, so to give you a small portion is mercy. And if your gods oppose ours, they must pay the price.

We give you a last chance to save your people from slavery- a repeat of the horrors of Egypt your legends tell off. Accept this deal, or the Jewish race will be scattered across the earth.
 
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