The Rules of Being a Man

[GenMarshall]

Oh please, spare us your girly, asexual whining!

I can tell you that I am a heterosexual who is not a playa . I dont rate anywhere within the asexual relm, Sex just does not interest me mainly because I have been desensitized by the oversexation of the media.

 

[soul_warrior]

Can we have a ruling on bar-fights? Like a real man has been in a bar-fight or something?

Men will NOT be caught at a barfight.
when the MPs or cops arrive, its every bloke for himself.

Men will take care of the SAFETY of thier date FIRST.
our pride will be a second.

real men are not cowards. we shall not evade any fight unless warranted by other rules

Men will be world famous for that legendary barfight, back in Singapore, where they single handedly defeated 12 others.

Men, when forced into a fight, will go for the biggest meanest rival.

Men will use ONLY gentlemen rules in bar brawls.
NO knives, guns, etc.
Pool sticks, chairs, tables are allowed.
bottles - are up for discussion.

kicking and other martial skills are discouraged. fists are enough.

Men will reply in kind to threats.
all is fair in and

 

[Whomp]

The thing about a fight is it quells the herd a bit. I'll always get my boys backs but I prefer others fight so I can hone my other skills.

 

[Dann]

Men will NOT be caught at a barfight.
when the MPs or cops arrive, its every bloke for himself.

Agreed in principle. Strangely however, the idiots who continue to slug it out with the police gain nonsensical macho points, as the stories get recalled decades later.

Men will take care of the SAFETY of thier date FIRST.
our pride will be a second.

Yup. Escort her to a taxicab, instruct the driver, pay the bill, then go back into the brawl.

real men are not cowards. we shall not evade any fight unless warranted by other rules

Cannot be stressed more. If a gun is pulled, RUN!!!

I'll think of responses to the rest later.

 

[Markus6]

The young generation should just treat Male and Females equal, and Machoism is the thing I hate the most !!

Yeah that's good advice...





... If you're bisexual. There are some very important differences between men and women and these might give you a clue as to why I want to treat women differently to men.

 

[PrinceOfLeigh]

Notwithstanding my earlier suggestion that a Real Man does not follow rules I would like to propose a Bill if the "Real Man Senate" will permit.

The Bill relates to the Real Man and his participation in sport. I believe that there are some sports which give a Real Man status whilst others do not. In any event I believe that a Real Man participates in some manner of sport as sporting prowess refelects on a Real Man's ability to kill on the Battlefield.

I propose the following Bill. RULE 26 if you will. Any comments or ammendments are welcomed.

Section 1. A real man should either participate in or be able to make reference to at least one story of sporting glory “back in the day”
(a)‘Participation’ is defined as:
1.actively taking part in; and/or
2.being a spectator of; and/or
3.having a concerned interest in a ‘sport’ defined in s.2.
(b)‘make reference to’ shall relate to a real man having participated in a ‘sport’ at any time previously.

Section 2. A ‘sport’ is defined as any such activity which relates vaguely to the natural pastime of the real man ie hunting and war.
(a) Activities not defined as ‘sports’ under s.2 will not preclude participation by a real man provided that this is in addition to participation in a ‘sport’

Section 3. A real man should take great interest in any sport, including those not defined under s.2 if the same sport is being shown on TV and the alternative is watching a channel of his partners choosing.

 

[GenMarshall]

I propose the following Bill. RULE 26 if you will. Any comments or ammendments are welcomed.

Section 1. A real man should either participate in or be able to make reference to at least one story of sporting glory “back in the day”
(a)‘Participation’ is defined as:
1.actively taking part in; and/or
2.being a spectator of; and/or
3.having a concerned interest in a ‘sport’ defined in s.2.
(b)‘make reference to’ shall relate to a real man having participated in a ‘sport’ at any time previously.

Section 2. A ‘sport’ is defined as any such activity which relates vaguely to the natural pastime of the real man ie hunting and war.
(a) Activities not defined as ‘sports’ under s.2 will not preclude participation by a real man provided that this is in addition to participation in a ‘sport’

Section 3. A real man should take great interest in any sport, including those not defined under s.2 if the same sport is being shown on TV and the alternative is watching a channel of his partners choosing.

I am against the passage of this. I dont enjoy watching nor playing sports (Other than martial arts). It just sounds to me like trying to establish some sort of Jock dominated male society and kick the men who dont like sports out of the picture.

 

[PrinceOfLeigh]

I am against the passage of this. I dont enjoy watching nor playing sports (Other than martial arts). It just sounds to me like trying to establish some sort of Jock dominated male society and kick the men who dont like sports out of the picture.

To be honest I expected this response. I think a subsection disallowing the 'Jock', or anyone who is defined only on sporting success, from accessing 'Real Man' status is warranted.

 

[Rambuchan]

I am against the passage of this. I dont enjoy watching nor playing sports (Other than martial arts).

There you go with your girly whining again.

It just sounds to me like trying to establish some sort of Jock dominated male society and kick the men who dont like sports out of the picture.

And, pray tell, what is wrong with that?

PrinceOfLeigh: Interesting proposal and well worth discussion. You should really have included some (very harsh) comment on men who choose to:

a) Play badminton

and

b) Talk about it.

 

[Brighteye]

Insist to pay on a date? That's a fricking given. Anyone who does otherwise is a creep.

The above is a serious post for once.

It would appear that I have successfully been a creep on the level of that Darren Watts (was it?) character for many years now.
I split the bill. I split every bill. I pay my way, and I expect others to do the same. I'm not looking for a sponger as a wife/girlfriend, but a partner. I make this quite clear from the beginning, which doesn't usually happen at a restaurant.
In fact, do real men take women out on romantic restaurant dates at all?

 

[Brighteye]

I disagree that real men take an interest in all sport. Real men, of course, do play something sporty, and possibly take an interest in sports too, but the only necessary thing is that one participates in a sport.

If physical infirmity or having a job prevent this, then references to glory days are allowed.
If a man has actually participated in warfare or hunting, this is acceptable in lieu of a sport.
Real men have lives other than their sport. A man who is dedicated to one thing, be it a girl, work, or a sport, is not a real men.

 

[Dann]

You don't get it. It's not about chivalry, it's not about gentlemanly behavior. Why did I show that the behavior persists even among all-male gatherings? Because it's about "I'm the alpha male! I got enough moola to pay for all of us! The rest of ya should be indebted to me!" That's what fighting to pay the bill is all about.

 

[Rambuchan]

Because it's about "I'm the alpha male! I got enough moola to pay for all of us! The rest of ya should be indebted to me!" That's what fighting to pay the bill is all about.

Exactly.

Please see these, which are closely related or simply the same dynamic in action (combined with others):

Rule 1: Never say that another man is good-looking.
Rule 5: Always make a determined effort to pay the bill.
Rule 6: You must offer your coat when a lady is cold.
Rule 10: Never read instructions, nor ask for directions or help.
Rule 11: Regarding 'size'. It's so obvious it matters that you should never even bother discussing it.
Rule 14: Regarding Dancing: If you are good, do it, (and make sure it gets you laid). If you not good - don't do it.
Rule 16: You should never admit that another man is willing and able to endure more physical pain than you.
Rule 17: If something needs to be done (particularly minor) and just two men are present, you must always be the first to come up with a plan which makes the other man go do that thing. You're top dog always right? Keep it that way.
Rule 20: Regarding cooking.
and
Rule 21: Regarding Road Trips.

 

[PrinceOfLeigh]

PrinceOfLeigh: Interesting proposal and well worth discussion. You should really have included some (very harsh) comment on men who choose to:

a) Play badminton

and

b) Talk about it.

Badminton has no relation to anything which is remotely warrior or hunter-gatherer like. As far as I was aware it is mostly played by city-types who are s*** at Golf.

I disagree that real men take an interest in all sport. Real men, of course, do play something sporty, and possibly take an interest in sports too, but the only necessary thing is that one participates in a sport.

Doesn't have to take an interest in all sport, but a rounded knowledge should be had. Also, interest in watching any sport over and above watching Soaps. Anyone who yells* "OMG I've missed Hollyoaks because of the Ashes Test!!" ain't no real man.

If physical infirmity or having a job prevent this, then references to glory days are allowed.
If a man has actually participated in warfare or hunting, this is acceptable in lieu of a sport.
Real men have lives other than their sport. A man who is dedicated to one thing, be it a girl, work, or a sport, is not a real men.

I would have no objection to the inclusion of the above paragraphs. Covers the exclusion of the 'Jock' rather well.


*Obviously they wouldn't yell OMG but you know what I mean

 

[JoeM]

I split the bill. I split every bill. I pay my way, and I expect others to do the same. I'm not looking for a sponger as a wife/girlfriend, but a partner.

Oh lordy, the imagery of standing at the altar with a suited business man (pertner) or Cowboy (howdy pardner) comes to mind

Semi-seriously, it's all courtship. Aaall courtship. Me Tarzan, I can feed Jane, ergo I can feed our kids - don't order the chocolate sundae though

I disagree that real men take an interest in all sport.

I concur. Sport is an attempt to civilise what Real Men do - violence. Hence Real Men wouldn't immasculate themselves this way.
I can't see Jack Palance wearing a footie scarf or Clint Eastwood as a goalie.

 

[PrinceOfLeigh]

I concur. Sport is an attempt to civilise what Real Men do - violence. Hence Real Men wouldn't immasculate themselves this way.

Got to disagree, there are no 'real men' fighting amongst themselves on the football terraces. 'Real Men' know the art of "controlled aggression".

I can't see Jack Palance wearing a footie scarf or Clint Eastwood as a goalie.

I would argue that a goalie is much more of a real man than someone who pretends to be a cowboy.

 

[Brighteye]

You don't get it. It's not about chivalry, it's not about gentlemanly behavior. Why did I show that the behavior persists even among all-male gatherings? Because it's about "I'm the alpha male! I got enough moola to pay for all of us! The rest of ya should be indebted to me!" That's what fighting to pay the bill is all about.

I'm not looking for a bunch of whiners to be indebted to me. I'm not the alpha male in a community, I'm the only real male. The rest just get in the way. I have never seen anyone try to pay for bills except out of politeness. I don't want to waste my resources on others, and I'd rather not make a fuss about payment anyway. It's a sordid subject, best avoided by civilised people. If lots of people all want to pay for me, that's splendid news. Please introduce me, and we'll go out to dinner a lot.

 

[JoeM]

Got to disagree, there are no 'real men' fighting amongst themselves on the football terraces. 'Real Men' know the art of "controlled aggression".

I would argue that a goalie is much more of a real man than someone who pretends to be a cowboy.

You're no fun

 

[Dann]

I'm not looking for a bunch of whiners to be indebted to me. I'm not the alpha male in a community, I'm the only real male. The rest just get in the way. I have never seen anyone try to pay for bills except out of politeness. I don't want to waste my resources on others, and I'd rather not make a fuss about payment anyway. It's a sordid subject, best avoided by civilised people. If lots of people all want to pay for me, that's splendid news. Please introduce me, and we'll go out to dinner a lot.

Dunno about your part of the world but over here that kind of behavior isn't gonna earn you friends. Or the all important guanxi - connections.

 

[Brighteye]

I've noticed that there is a huge cultural divide between Britain and the Orient about paying for things. All the oriental people I've met are far more keen to pay for things.*
Here the whole subject of money was traditionally regarded with disdain, as a sad necessity that was best ignored as much as it could be. I get it over with, without being in anyone's debt, or having anyone owe me anything.

edit: *except a girlfriend I had, who would cry for hours on end because I expected to split the bills.