The Thread Where We Discuss Guns and Gun Control

Get that one from Mr. AMMOSULEZUALZ or all Tim on this one?
 
Get that one from Mr. AMMOSULEZUALZ or all Tim on this one?

I get that one from pretty much every gun nut I talk to. No amount of statistics that show gun owners are less safe can make a dent in their "but my feelies tell me I'm safer!"
 
The latter then! ;)
 
i was thinking more dukes of hazard. I guess I'm too old.
"Boss Hogg" was the mayor not the Sheriff. The Sheriff was "Roscoe P. Coltrane" and he was a tall skinny fellow. The show was a pretty shamless 1 to 1 Robin Hood ripoff, where Maid Marian was their cousin/(sister?) cause, you know... country folk :ack:

Anyway... it was a damn fine show, one of my favs as a kid... and yes I'm handwaiving the name of the car and the confederate flag on the roof cause the General Lee was the coolest car ever... come at me:p

I used to watch that show, followed by "Dallas" with my parents before bedtime on Friday (or was it Thursday?) nights. It used to be the highlight of my week cause I got to stay up late... It really is hilarious to think about, in retrospect, for so many reasons.
 
"Boss Hogg" was the mayor not the Sheriff. The Sheriff was "Roscoe P. Coltrane" and he was a tall skinny fellow. The show was a pretty shamless 1 to 1 Robin Hood ripoff, where Maid Marian was their cousin/(sister?) cause, you know... country folk :ack:

Anyway... it was a damn fine show, one of my favs as a kid... and yes I'm handwaiving the name of the car and the confederate flag on the roof cause the General Lee was the coolest car ever... come at me:p

I used to watch that show, followed by "Dallas" with my parents before bedtime on Friday (or was it Thursday?) nights. It used to be the highlight of my week cause I got to stay up late... It really is hilarious to think about, in retrospect, for so many reasons.

Friday nights used to be the highlight of my week because I got to stay up to watch "The Virginian". My brother and I used to fight about who was best out of The Virginian and Trampas.
 
"Boss Hogg" was the mayor not the Sheriff. The Sheriff was "Roscoe P. Coltrane" and he was a tall skinny fellow. The show was a pretty shamless 1 to 1 Robin Hood ripoff, where Maid Marian was their cousin/(sister?) cause, you know... country folk :ack:

Anyway... it was a damn fine show, one of my favs as a kid... and yes I'm handwaiving the name of the car and the confederate flag on the roof cause the General Lee was the coolest car ever... come at me:p

I used to watch that show, followed by "Dallas" with my parents before bedtime on Friday (or was it Thursday?) nights. It used to be the highlight of my week cause I got to stay up late... It really is hilarious to think about, in retrospect, for so many reasons.

Roscoe P. Coltrane may have been a skinny fellow, but Buford T. Justice is what I think of as the prototype southern sheriff, and he certainly wasn't.
 
Roscoe P. Coltrane may have been a skinny fellow, but Buford T. Justice is what I think of as the prototype southern sheriff, and he certainly wasn't.
I think you've hit the nail on the head. That's the iconic villainous "southern" Sheriff, because of those Burt Reynolds movies.
 
We're talking about a tank vs a gun for home defense, families are part of that picture.

Well you might be now, but you weren't when you said "How are you going to defend yourself with a tank or bomb vest?", in reply to a comment that didn't mention anything to do with home defence. This was all about natural rights and the right to self defence. Not sure when it morphed into home defence, which is obviously not the same thing.

You're not on a battlefield, you're sitting in a tank...or asleep in a tank. Somebody could walk right up with a gas can and you wouldn't know what was happening until you smelled the gas. You're right on the last point.

Why would I be asleep in the tank? I realise you're now talking about setting up home in the tank for some reason, but as noted above this is certainly not what I was ever talking about.
 
It's now turned into a debate as to whether a tank would be an effective Home Defense tool, not whether it would be just potentially presented as 1.

So, if guns at home were more likely to, say, kill a family member than kill an intruder ......

At that point we then usually discuss statistically undetected deterrence. But then we're going back to the question as to whether a family has ever been successfully robbed when they were sleeping inside of a tank. A home-based firearm has failed to deter many, many types. A tank, I'm not so sure
 
I kinda want to know what Erika puts in the tank.
 
Compsognathus confirmed.
 
The argument revolves around there being things that are more important than maximizing safety and efficiency in the macro. The safety argument is then secondary. And that's how it will always be. No matter how any of these specific issues plays out.

This is literally Farm Boy's position:
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Roscoe P. Coltrane may have been a skinny fellow, but Buford T. Justice is what I think of as the prototype southern sheriff, and he certainly wasn't.
When I was a little kid I used to think he was saying his name was "Roscoe Peecoe Train" and that's how I always pronounced it. :lol:
 
That makes more sense than what it is. :)
 
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