The Thread Where We Discuss Guns and Gun Control

[Farm Boy]

It doesn't make sense, since you have no reason to buy 20 wings if you can't eat them (I suppose fast-food tends to become inedible fast, so you can't eat another day). Those who could eat 20 wings before the food goes bad, would have bought them anyway in one go, so the ridiculous special 20 wings for +2 dollars wouldn't mean anything to them either.

One also has to suppose that it would be more enticing to just have the 20 wing packet cost slightly less than $8; the company would marginally lose next to separate orders of 5 wings, but obviously they have a margin of profit for 5 wings so numbers would produce again a profit. (so, if anything, I see this scheme bringing a bigger profit only due to those who actually would routinely buy 20 wings while there was a slight discount for the packet, not those who were normally going to buy fewer).

I can eat 20 wings and get drunk on beer on top of it, then again, I'd probably not eat much for a day or two afterwards. It's been a long time since I've had wings, but 4-6 would be more normal. With a group of friends? Like 4 of them if we've been out golfing or something? Splitting a huge pile of wings makes for relatively communal eating. The Chinese(and anyone else who does it) are onto something with those Lazy Susans in the middle of the table. Those are fun.

 

[Sommerswerd]

I can eat 20 wings and get drunk on beer on top of it, then again, I'd probably not eat much for a day or two afterwards. It's been a long time since I've had wings, but 4-6 would be more normal. With a group of friends? Like 4 of them if we've been out golfing or something? Splitting a huge pile of wings makes for relatively communal eating. The Chinese(and anyone else who does it) are onto something with those Lazy Susans in the middle of the table. Those are fun.

Yeah 20 wings is child's play, especially if all you are eating is wings.

I've seen those communal food bowls you mention done in Middle Eastern and Mediterranean restaurants/homes too. "Family-style" serving in US restaurants is awesome... where they bring you a giant bowl of mashed potatoes and a trough or green beans and a giant platter of ham for the whole table and everyone just digs in. Fun, fun, fun.

 

[Samson]

This is actually a real gun made by a real gun company Culper Precision:

They said:

It is our business to assist firearms owners in making their guns better reflect them as a person and individual, our pieces speak to the owner of the gun as they have selected those options from a seemingly infinite range of possibilities. It seems that no matter what we create in the firearms industry anti gunners seem to leverage every *true* innovation (block19 is NOT an innovation it is a fun safe queen) shortly after its release to talk about why guns are bad. We are sick of the past.. [and then it tails off into nothing, like any good crazy rant]

They are clearly a responsible gun manufacturer. Close to the bottom of the home page is this 26 sec video, that extorts the virtues of the atomic 6; Lighter (so is easily carried tucked into your belt), Faster (can fire at a rate of about 2/sec?), Sexier (has ridges?). I reckon they know their customers.

 

[Sommerswerd]

This is actually a real gun made by a real gun company Culper Precision:

They said:

It is our business to assist firearms owners in making their guns better reflect them as a person and individual, our pieces speak to the owner of the gun as they have selected those options from a seemingly infinite range of possibilities. It seems that no matter what we create in the firearms industry anti gunners seem to leverage every *true* innovation (block19 is NOT an innovation it is a fun safe queen) shortly after its release to talk about why guns are bad. We are sick of the past.. [and then it tails off into nothing, like any good crazy rant]

They are clearly a responsible gun manufacturer. Close to the bottom of the home page is this 26 sec video, that extorts the virtues of the atomic 6; Lighter (so is easily carried tucked into your belt), Faster (can fire at a rate of about 2/sec?), Sexier (has ridges?). I reckon they know their customers.

I find it highly unlikely that this could be sold legally in the US.

Also... LEGO Corporation "You'll be hearing from our lawyer"

 

[Lexicus]

I'm intrigued by the sight design there, would that actually work with those translucent pieces?

 

[Bugfatty300]

I find it highly unlikely that this could be sold legally in the US.

Also... LEGO Corporation "You'll be hearing from our lawyer"

It's not for sale. It's a custom modification of an existing gun. Probably made for free advertising generated by fearmongering news and outrage clicks.

I reckon they know their customers.

They know the media better it seems.

 

[Joij21]

I shall never understand Americas fascination with guns.

It's called Americans hate and distrust their government and hate and distrust each other.

Unlike most nations the U.S. Federal Government doesn't provide the same safety net that other governments provide for their people, thus causing most Americans to look on their current ruling government with plenty of suspicion and distrust. The current distrust that Americans have is also in part do to the many forever wars the Government has caused, starting as far back as Vietnam (Korea was too forgotten for most Americans to notice or care).

America has had many racial problems as well, so there have been certain kinds of people who spread certain kinds of racial stereotypes. One particular stereotype being that black men are violent and sexually impulsive due to the "natural characteristics of their race". Therefore such stereotypes cause many white men to fear that they will get randomly jumped by a black man or a black man will sneak into the white neighborhood to perform a home invasion and rape his wife and daughter (since according to the stereotype blacks can only rape and kill).

Political polarization is also rampant and in part has gotten worse ever since Vietnam (warhawks/vets verses doves/hippies) and the Civil Rights Movement (black people versus white supremacists). As you can see many political situations are still the same like Afghanistan (America's Vietnam 2.0) and like all of the Black Lives Matter protests and the January 6th Insurrection (still the same old blacks versus white supremacists). You also have clashes on college campuses with Marxists shutting down people who try to speak their mind and Fascists walking around the campuses trying to provoke.

Also America has had a pretty slow economic recovery from the 2009 Great Recession and it's long term effects have effected children and adolescents growing up during that period. As soon as these youngsters entered the adult world, not too long after Covid-19 hit thus causing another economic recession and massive unemployment all while trying to pay off massive college debt. So it seems like this current generation is on track to becoming a lost American generation.

So combine all the factors above and American's on both the Left and Right have more reason than ever before to "lock up and load" to prepare themselves for a possible Second American Civil War where neither side feels safe being left unarmed for fear of getting taken advantage of by the other side.

 

[Sommerswerd]

It's not for sale. It's a custom modification of an existing gun. Probably made for free advertising generated by fearmongering news and outrage clicks.

Company XYZ "It's a custom modification of an existing gun."

LEGO: "Yeah... um... that's nice... you'll be hearing from our lawyers."

 

[Samson]

Mexico sues US gun manufacturers over arms trafficking

The Mexican government has sued some of the biggest US gun manufacturers, accusing them of fuelling bloodshed through reckless business practices.
The lawsuit alleges that the companies knew they were contributing to illegal arms trafficking, which has been linked to many deaths.
Officials say Mexico is seeking as much as $10bn (£7.2bn) in compensation, though any amount would be decided by the court.
They include Smith & Wesson and Barrett Firearms, among others. The companies have not yet commented.

Mexican officials said that some of the guns made by Colt appeared to target the Mexican market in particular, such as a pistol engraved with the face and name of Mexican revolutionary leader Emiliano Zapata.

One official told reporters the damage caused by trafficked guns would be equal to around 1.7% of Mexico's gross domestic product (GDP).
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[EgonSpengler]

Mexico sues US gun manufacturers over arms trafficking

The Mexican government has sued some of the biggest US gun manufacturers, accusing them of fuelling bloodshed through reckless business practices.​

otoh, it could be argued that gun manufacturers fueling bloodshed is just sensible business practice. Like charging tobacco companies with making advertisements that appeal to their target audience. The ads weren't the problem, the product was the problem.

The lawsuit alleges that the companies knew they were contributing to illegal arms trafficking, which has been linked to many deaths.
Officials say Mexico is seeking as much as $10bn (£7.2bn) in compensation, though any amount would be decided by the court.
They include Smith & Wesson and Barrett Firearms, among others. The companies have not yet commented.

Mexican officials said that some of the guns made by Colt appeared to target the Mexican market in particular, such as a pistol engraved with the face and name of Mexican revolutionary leader Emiliano Zapata.

One official told reporters the damage caused by trafficked guns would be equal to around 1.7% of Mexico's gross domestic product (GDP).

I was thinking when I heard this on the radio that $10b might be low. I hope they have something approaching success with this.

 

[Farm Boy]

We are yet again to be subjected to the realization that weapons are weapons. In a society that eats, but does not pay attention to, meat. Okidoki.

I love the inherent racism in the fundamental argument. Nope, no hispanic market for firearms in the US, nope, definitely not.

 

[Birdjaguar]

I wonder what would happen if all hand guns were manufactured such that each time the gun was fired it had a 30% chance of killing the firer rather than going where the gun was aimed? Upping the risk to the shooter would be an interesting twist.

 

[Farm Boy]

Anytime you've pulled a gun in anger you are in serious danger.

But that would be called a malfunction. What you describe. Given the global impact of central air units, I would say we'd get more morality mileage out of those giving their operators cancer. If we're to get into the weeds of malfunction and liability. Could revisit Bayer and its agrochemicals even. Sue them for monocultures. "Your product did exactly what it was advertised to do. And was legal to sell, and use, in this manner."

 

[AmazonQueen]

otoh, it could be argued that gun manufacturers fueling bloodshed is just sensible business practice. Like charging tobacco companies with making advertisements that appeal to their target audience. The ads weren't the problem, the product was the problem.

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I was thinking when I heard this on the radio that $10b might be low. I hope they have something approaching success with this.

Advertising of tobacco products is highly restricted in a lot of countries.
If the products the problem advertising it is also a problem, especially when its designed to reach new markets.

 

[Lexicus]

I was thinking when I heard this on the radio that $10b might be low. I hope they have something approaching success with this.

I'm calling it right now: they won't.

 

[EgonSpengler]

I'm calling it right now: they won't.

I will not take that bet.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Ha! I can see the factory where this is made from my office window

Spoiler :

Its the blue-onion-domed building in the distance.

 

[amadeus]

"Here are the three architects you asked for Mr. Colt."

"Hello, I'm John Moore. A productivity engineer and statistician, I built plants for Ford Motor and the United States Steel Corporation."
"While your qualifications are excellent, your designs really won't 'fit' with our company, I'm afraid."

"Howdy, I'm Tex Rutherford. I've built firearms factories for the Army, Navy, and all five nations of Europe."
"You certainly know your trade... but we're looking really in another direction."

"I am Dmitri Lisitsyn. Before revolution, I build church for Patriarch of Irkutsk."
"Hire this man!"

 

[Manfred Belheim]

How can a gun be a "fun safe queen"? Is that just three random words?

 

[Samson]

How can a gun be a "fun safe queen"? Is that just three random words?

Google comes up with this definition:

Culper Precision’s original post states that the Block19 is intended to be a “fun safe queen,” which is the term for a gun that typically remains in a safe as a collectible.​