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The very many questions-not-worth-their-own-thread question thread XXXI
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Gori the Grey
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Don't they realize that went out with the 18th century?
Keep up with the times, moths! Let's get you some styling creme.
Keep up with the times, moths! Let's get you some styling creme.
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We'll make a republican of Warpus yet.
Oh, great. Now I've got a mental image of little wig-wearing moths flying around and crashing on the ground because their wigs are too heavy.
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warpus
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I'm sure by the time I'm 70 I'll be senile, cranky, hate everyone, including all the kids with all their body modifications and trans-dimensional genders, and at that point in time the Republican party is probably going to be finally accepting of equality for all sexual orientations, religions, and genders, so that actually might happen one day.
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"Back in my day, we had to fire up the old Windows XP to play some Deus Ex if we wanted to be augmented..."
Well, the two parties do have a history of doing polarity shifts with each other. But then it'll just be a name change for everyone else, really.
warpus
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Over time accepted social norms slowly become more and more progressive, meaning that 50 years ago today's Republicans might have been viewed as being centrist or even liberal, so when I'm a senior their views and positions might very well catch up to today's bare minimum standards, while their liberal counterparts are going to be even further to the left, supporting robot marriage and orange peel rights or whatever.
Please don't stereotype; my grandparents supported Pierre Trudeau in the '60s through '80s, and then switched to NDP after he retired. As for me, I'm strictly speaking not a senior citizen, but some places start giving seniors' discounts to people 50 and older, so I'd be an idiot not to take advantage of them.
warpus
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Sorry but I'm not stereotyping, just describing general social trends. Obviously there's going to be exceptions
There are more exceptions than you think. It irks me no end when younger people (particularly on CBC) keep on issuing blanket condemnations that "all old people vote Conservative" and "all baby-boomers are responsible for wrecking Canada/voting for Pierre Trudeau."
Someone finally pointed out that most of Canada's baby-boom generation weren't old enough to vote when Trudeau became Prime Minister (in 1968). I'm at the tail end of that generation, and at that time I was only 5 years old.
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I mean yeah, there's exceptions, but generally speaking western society has been slowly moving to the left and to more progressive values. These trends look to continue into the future as well. That's all I was saying.
Republicans were considered the equivalent of radical liberals by today's standards as far back as the rise of Lincoln before the US Civil War. If what you said is true, than to this day, Republicans would be the radical liberals and Democrats the rich, white guy party. The parties have flopped ideologies, not merely keeping up with the pace of social growth.
There's projection, and then there's flipping the table.
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Yes, I know such flips have happened, I'm just pointing to the general shift of western society to more progressive values, slowly over time.
Fair enough, then. But there are a depressing number of people who are coming out of the woodwork and wanting to reverse this. At least that's the impression I get, given that some commenters (not here) have made it very clear that they want to reverse much of the social progress that's been made over the past several decades. I have no idea what your opinion is of your provincial Premier, but one train of "thought" I've noticed is that some CBC commenters have openly told her to "get back to the kitchen." And then they have the gall to say, "Oh, no, it has nothing at all to do with her gender or sexual orientation, it's her policies we hate." Similar things have been said in Alberta, about Rachel Notley (some Conservatives sneeringly refer to her as "Blondie" instead of using her name).
Flipping has happened in both the U.S. and Canada. Some of the things that Laurier (PM around the turn of the 19th/20th century) would be considered Conservative now (Progressive Conservative, not Reformacon Conservative). As time goes by it will very likely happen again.
"Flipping has happened in both the U.S. and Canada. Some of the things that Laurier (PM around the turn of the 19th/20th century) would be considered Conservative now (Progressive Conservative, not Reformacon Conservative). As time goes by it will very likely happen again."
Yes. That was my original statement.
Yes. That was my original statement.
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Yeah, and even people on the extreme/regressive left who are trying to do the same thing. There's not enough of them to shift the balance in the other direction, though, at least for now.
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