TheLopez's Mod Component Library Thread and more
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The Great Apple
Big Cheese
Lord Olleus said:
I was reading the first part of your post and thought exactly that.
scottcstoness
Chieftain
TheLopez said:Hmmm... air mines, now that would be an "interesting" air defense unit.
2 words: Barrage balloons!
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Rabbit, White
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I'm not sure there is a need for this added complexity. I mean, Civ 4 uses a certain level of abstruction, in part obviously because there is a limit to how much and how fast current PC's can process information, but in part because it keeps you focused on the important elements of the game. Basically, IMHO it comes down to this - doing math to figure out if you can move or not does not contribute to the fun factor.Zuul said:
I am curious about the "Roads and Lands" request, what is that (I was under the impression that these already existed in civ4
)?Imdement
Chieftain
Great Mods. Curious have you thought about merging your mods together?
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Rabbit, White
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Three words - Great Options ModImdement said:
TheLopez could you do me a teeny tiny favor, could you please mark all the mods that use the SDK with an asterisk? I periodically check out this list to see what mod I'd like to add next but keep forgetting which ones use SDK and which don't. Thanks
Imdement
Chieftain
Maybe I'm blind. I just searched for the Great Options Mod and rechecked this thread and didn't see this one. If I am blind, will someone point me in the right direction?
Todd Hawks
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That's great news. Will there be options to choose which mod components to use? (well, since it's called "The Great Options Mod" I assume so... just asking. )
)Rabbit said:I'm not sure there is a need for this added complexity. I mean, Civ 4 uses a certain level of abstruction, in part obviously because there is a limit to how much and how fast current PC's can process information, but in part because it keeps you focused on the important elements of the game. Basically, IMHO it comes down to this - doing math to figure out if you can move or not does not contribute to the fun factor.
Oh but I think these things make the game more fun. It's very litle to calculate, will not slow down the game with more than some milisecond. Would be fun to have slow moving units like some big gun, or stone gigant with movement 0.5 (that can only move every other turn). And I think it's strange that only city radius use circular distance.
chef pablo
Warlord
can you take a look at this,its just one of many ideas i have but the one im most interested in seeing
ok, there has been alot of discusion about this,ive said more than my share and peolple have gotten their feathers ruffled over this.So ive not really had any desire to ask about a mod ,till now.
This is one of those 12 year old boy's ideas,well duh just let the air out of the tires.Any way its this simple ,A unit for each age should have fixed culture attached to it,this should be some type of groand unit,warrior,swordsman,maceman,musketman,etc.The big issue is getting the AI to reconize this.
If you think about it, this should resolve alot of the supply issues,and allow some of the tactics.If your pushing units to your border attempting to push the border back and the AI (this is probally going to be the big hurdle, to get the AI to understand the concept)is doing this as well,then you should end up with the nifty line of units on both sides of the border.With units requireing maintanence and needing units to push the border back there wont be the stacks of doom in the cities.furthermore if war is declared figuring out where the weak point in the chain is, will be imparative .flanking ,pinching all these tactics will come into play.I know this dosnt resolve the oil issue for mech units but it does resolve the issue of supplieing ground troops.
I just realized this cuold be done with the navy as well.pick one unit to represent a blocade unit have it have culture,move it into your enemys port city or cities and the culture from the blockade should cover your enemys access to the sea .As you advance through the ages more advanced ships would have a higher culture rating.culture rating would represent operational range.In modern times the blockade ship would be the submarine, having 5 or 6 in an ocean would effectivly give you controle of shipping in that ocean.
The same could be done with bombers giving a one time culture rating in an area that you decide land or sea provided it servives any fighters on patrole.
ok, there has been alot of discusion about this,ive said more than my share and peolple have gotten their feathers ruffled over this.So ive not really had any desire to ask about a mod ,till now.
This is one of those 12 year old boy's ideas,well duh just let the air out of the tires.Any way its this simple ,A unit for each age should have fixed culture attached to it,this should be some type of groand unit,warrior,swordsman,maceman,musketman,etc.The big issue is getting the AI to reconize this.
If you think about it, this should resolve alot of the supply issues,and allow some of the tactics.If your pushing units to your border attempting to push the border back and the AI (this is probally going to be the big hurdle, to get the AI to understand the concept)is doing this as well,then you should end up with the nifty line of units on both sides of the border.With units requireing maintanence and needing units to push the border back there wont be the stacks of doom in the cities.furthermore if war is declared figuring out where the weak point in the chain is, will be imparative .flanking ,pinching all these tactics will come into play.I know this dosnt resolve the oil issue for mech units but it does resolve the issue of supplieing ground troops.
I just realized this cuold be done with the navy as well.pick one unit to represent a blocade unit have it have culture,move it into your enemys port city or cities and the culture from the blockade should cover your enemys access to the sea .As you advance through the ages more advanced ships would have a higher culture rating.culture rating would represent operational range.In modern times the blockade ship would be the submarine, having 5 or 6 in an ocean would effectivly give you controle of shipping in that ocean.
The same could be done with bombers giving a one time culture rating in an area that you decide land or sea provided it servives any fighters on patrole.
hi, TheLopez
2 ideas
1 - I like to see a new combat system based in the orientation of the unit. Ex: if a unit is faced to north and you attack from side or back, you should have respectivly more favorable odds.
2 - For fantazy mods - Take other unit's Body( the appropriate word
)
if you defeat other unit you take the strengh and special abilities and maybe promotions, from that unit Ex: if a axeman defeats a swordamn he aquires 6 of strenght and 10% city atack.
that was great....
2 ideas
1 - I like to see a new combat system based in the orientation of the unit. Ex: if a unit is faced to north and you attack from side or back, you should have respectivly more favorable odds.
2 - For fantazy mods - Take other unit's Body( the appropriate word
)if you defeat other unit you take the strengh and special abilities and maybe promotions, from that unit Ex: if a axeman defeats a swordamn he aquires 6 of strenght and 10% city atack.
that was great....
The Great Apple
Big Cheese
IMO that would get extremely tedious and micromanagey. You'd be forever making sure your troops were orientated right in your cities so that you could cover all angles, and on the scale the Civ 4 is, it's not even realistic.Portus said:
Jeckel
Great Reverend
I like the unit faceing idea. Though I see TGA's point about micro managment, I play alot of small maps where I only have 2-3 citys and not more then a few dozen units, so wouldn't be very bad for me. I agree it should only apply to units in the feild and I would add that fortified units should also be exempt from flanking and rear attacks.
chef pablo
Warlord
this is a scary idea,im kinda of a micromanager but this would be to much.
