Theories on Smoking

[Akka]

Smoking breaks are outside.

And the people I work with aren't going out of their way to be offended and have something to whine about.

I wasn't aware that coughing and having a horrible smell in your nose because of smoke was "being offended". I was pretty sure it was a physical reaction.

 

[metalhead]

If you can't figure out how to stand down wind of the smoke, then that's on you.

 

[rah]

I always hated the quitters that became anti warriors. After smoking for almost 40 years and quitting, I promised myself that I wouldn't fall into that trap. 10 years later I can honestly say I didn't. But then I can always tell when anybody nearby is smoking and I fondly remember it.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I wasn't aware that coughing and having a horrible smell in your nose because of smoke was "being offended". I was pretty sure it was a physical reaction.

Fair enough. You seemed to take offense on me forcing second hand smoke down my team's throat.

The team enjoys the mini breaks. It's a big outside, no one is bothering anyone. So that was an assumption on your behalf when you cringed hearing the awful news of smokers and non-smokers doing an ebony and ivory

 

[Akka]

If you can't figure out how to stand down wind of the smoke, then that's on you.

You're lucky if that's enough for you. I choke on tobacco if anyone smoke in a radius of five meters, and I can smell it ten meters away. And no, I'm not exagerating. My life improved massively the day smoking was banned in public enclosed space.

 

[rah]

Now if they'd only ban farting in public enclosed spaces.
And using too much perfume.
Or not bathing.
Or anything else that might make you choke.

 

[metalhead]

You're lucky if that's enough for you. I choke on tobacco if anyone smoke in a radius of five meters, and I can smell it ten meters away. And no, I'm not exagerating. My life improved massively the day smoking was banned in public enclosed space.

You can smell tobacco smoke from 10 meters away, outdoors, regardless of which way the wind is blowing? That seems highly unlikely, tbh. Indoors, sure, humans are naturally very sensitive to smoke. Smelling it is one of the few sensory things our species excels at, but there are limits.

 

[Synobun]

Now if they'd only ban farting in public enclosed spaces.
And using too much perfume.
Or not bathing.
Or anything else that might make you choke.

A lot of offices and most healthcare establishments already do this.

 

[Akka]

Now if they'd only ban farting in public enclosed spaces.
Or not bathing.

Social mores already do that.

You can smell tobacco smoke from 10 meters away, outdoors, regardless of which way the wind is blowing? That seems highly unlikely, tbh. Indoors, sure, humans are naturally very sensitive to smoke. Smelling it is one of the few sensory things our species excels at, but there are limits.

I can smell tobacco from 10 m away outdoor if the air is still. Of course at this distance, wind makes a large difference, but I don't think I'd be 10m away if we're a group of coworkers taking a break, and if I'm 1 or 2m away, then yeah except if it's pretty strong, wind isn't sufficient.

Smoke is like noise : those who produce it tend to not realize how annoying it is to those who endure it.

 

[metalhead]

Well yeah, of course you'll smell it, but smelling it and getting smoke in your face are two different things.

What do you do at a campfire? If only one kind of smoke affects you that way, then I suspect the issue isn't the smoke itself.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

[...] but I don't think I'd be 10m away if we're a group of coworkers taking a break, and if I'm 1 or 2m away, then yeah except if it's pretty strong, wind isn't sufficient.

The non-smoker co-workers haven't got an issue with proximity, so in their particular case that's not a problem.

 

[Hygro]

Campfires are way nicer than cigarettes.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Campfires are way nicer than cigarettes.

Can't contest that. No one's ever sang songs around me and tried to roast marshmallows on my cigarette.

There are advantages though. Campfires keep lions and wolves away but attracts mosquitoes, while smoking repels both. Well, the mosquitoes anyway. Not many lions and wolves around where I usually smoke, but I'm sure they'll stay well clear.

 

[Akka]

Well yeah, of course you'll smell it, but smelling it and getting smoke in your face are two different things.

What do you do at a campfire? If only one kind of smoke affects you that way, then I suspect the issue isn't the smoke itself.

It's tobacco which is the problem.
I'm both blessed and cursed with an absolute disgust about alcohol and tobacco. The good thing is that I never had to force myself to not consume either, the bad thing is that I absolutely can't stand them (which is at worse awkward when it's about alcohol, but is really a huge pain when there is smokers and they don't realize how much of a nuisance their smoke is, and they think you're just being a drama queen).

 

[Hrothbern]

Can't contest that. No one's ever sang songs around me and tried to roast marshmallows on my cigarette.

There are advantages though. Campfires keep lions and wolves away but attracts mosquitoes, while smoking repels both. Well, the mosquitoes anyway. Not many lions and wolves around where I usually smoke, but I'm sure they'll stay well clear.

The smoke repels mosquitoes, but the increased CO2 attracts mosquitoes: it is their long range detector of mammal prey (up to 50 meter).
IIRC the agressive African honeybee was the first charted in this respect. They follow the CO2 trail and attack. Running away while holding your breath to make enough distance is there your escape.
The amount of CO2 from a cigarette about the same as what you normally breath out in rest: you double the output CO2.

so in effect: if you smoke it hurts the ones sitting next to you that do not smoke

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The smoke repels mosquitoes, but the increased CO2 attracts mosquitoes: it is their long range detector of mammal prey (up to 50 meter).
IIRC the agressive African honeybee was the first charted in this respect. They follow the CO2 trail and attack. Running away while holding your breath to make enough distance is there your escape.
The amount of CO2 from a cigarette about the same as what you normally breath out in rest: you double the output CO2.

so in effect: if you smoke it hurts the ones sitting next to you that do not smoke

So it just repels lions and wolves?

 

[Narz]

If you can't figure out how to stand down wind of the smoke, then that's on you.

**** me if I let some dickwad smoker tell me where to stand. Stay in your designated self-destruction area.

 

[Perfection]

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

**** me if I let some dickwad smoker tell me where to stand. Stay in your designated self-destruction area.

Anyway, I've never known people to judge me for not smoking, I think of myself as a good influence.

Yeah, it shows

 

[metalhead]

It's tobacco which is the problem.
I'm both blessed and cursed with an absolute disgust about alcohol and tobacco. The good thing is that I never had to force myself to not consume either, the bad thing is that I absolutely can't stand them (which is at worse awkward when it's about alcohol, but is really a huge pain when there is smokers and they don't realize how much of a nuisance their smoke is, and they think you're just being a drama queen).

So in some contexts it's OK to demand others respect one's hypersensitivities?