Ryika
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There's no statistics for this kind of thing
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warpus
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The "warrior" in SJW is a sarcastic perojative, the literal definition is not one anyone ever considers.
Senethro
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SJW has no consistent meaning. Its just a term people snarl with as if that is a response.
warpus
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I know, but the "warrior" part of it is sarcastic, as in "armchair warrior".. i.e. not a real warrior, someone who puts so much effort into something that we'll call them a warrior sarcastically
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Fun Fact: The person who used the word 'SJW' was actually useless himself. The second person to use that word was me, paraphrasing his own words. He then proceeded to use the word again as if he had been called that and not been the one who brought in that word in the first place.
Meanwhile everybody else explained exactly what they take issue with instead of just calling him an 'SJW'.
Meanwhile everybody else explained exactly what they take issue with instead of just calling him an 'SJW'.
Lexicus
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A poster recently said SJW is just a term employed by people who don't care about an issue, to people who do, to make the people who don't care feel better about their lack of empathy.
One could see it as just one more brick in the mental wall that reactionaries build so they can avoid thinking about their complicity in injustices. It's much like climate change denial, you don't have to think about being part of the problem if you can pretend there is no problem.
One could see it as just one more brick in the mental wall that reactionaries build so they can avoid thinking about their complicity in injustices. It's much like climate change denial, you don't have to think about being part of the problem if you can pretend there is no problem.
Senethro
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Well done commodore. With a single reference to a high profile murder case from 20 years ago, the thread has been derailed into talking about posters and insults.
With the precious cops successfully white knighted once again, shall we close the thread and move on?
With the precious cops successfully white knighted once again, shall we close the thread and move on?
warpus
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Hey I tried to bring up the Blue wall of silence, or whatever it's called, and nobody seems to want to talk about it.
The police here are known for summarily executing people, then removing their clothes, washing up the blood, and killing any witnesses that are around, and I've seen roughly 20 riot police gang up around a guy who was filming them trying to plant drugs on someone, and beat him with batons
Lexicus
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There isn't much discussion to be had, there is manifestly an enormous problem with racism in the US justice system, many police departments are not just "structurally racist" but full of bigoted white supremacists who'd be Brownshirts if they were transplanted to Germany during the 20s.
Is anyone really surprised that some people are willing to go to any lengths to deny the problem or that others are minimizing it with jokes about OJ Simpson? I mean, you want to talk about getting away with murder, the police get away with murder pretty much on a daily basis. The officer who shot Akai Gurley dead and then had a text conversation with his union rep instead of administering first aid is getting off with community service, for Christ's sake. I mean to be a cop charged with murder you have to literally shoot a man in the back as he runs away and get caught on film doing it.
Is anyone really surprised that some people are willing to go to any lengths to deny the problem or that others are minimizing it with jokes about OJ Simpson? I mean, you want to talk about getting away with murder, the police get away with murder pretty much on a daily basis. The officer who shot Akai Gurley dead and then had a text conversation with his union rep instead of administering first aid is getting off with community service, for Christ's sake. I mean to be a cop charged with murder you have to literally shoot a man in the back as he runs away and get caught on film doing it.
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They'd still get away with it if the man isn't white
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Lexicus
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west india man said:
No, the cop who murdered Laquan McDonald and the cop who murdered Walter Scott were both charged with murder but only after videos were released showing what really happened. Had the videos not existed it's unlikely that either cop would have faced any consequences at all.
Ryika said:
This can be confirmed by about thirty seconds of Googling.
Just from the first page of results
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2015/11/racist_texts_read_at_trial_of.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...cist-texts-leaked-nonprofit-article-1.2033713
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...Internal-Affairs-Investigation-297057771.html
http://gawker.com/the-horrible-bigoted-texts-traded-between-san-francisc-1692183203
I believe the blue wall of silence is a bigger problem then the racism. There are many good cops that are not racists but due to their silence makes them all look more racist. And if the racist ones couldn't feel confident that they'd get away with the crap when they do, there would be a lot less.
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Why not just roll with the black humor of the social deal, recognize the relative immunity from rule of law granted by fame, fortune, and insider status, then use OJ Simpson as an easily recognizable data point to extrapolate from? I mean, it's not like OJ provides a low bar. If anything he shows exactly how much it took for a black man to get away with clearly murdering his white wife in the 1990s. And how much attention that fact could Garner.
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For what exactly? If you want an example for the Black Police Force claim: Look at Baltimore. Half of the police is black.Still waiting for yours.
Population makeup:
White: 183,830 (29.6%)
Black: 395,781 (63.7%)
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore)
2012 homicide crime rates:
Race:
Asian: 1
Black: 204 (94.4%)
Hispanic: 1
White: 10 (4.6%)
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...1_drug-arrests-baltimore-homicides-gun-crimes
A population twice as big has a murder rate 20 times as big. An half-black police force doesn't seem to make a difference. Now how can you look at this and still come to the conclusion that crime rates severely over-representing black people in places with majority-white police forces must totally be because of massive discrimination and not at all because of larger numbers of actual black crime (for reasons mentioned in previous posts)?
This is a joke, right? You can't seriously think that looking at random cases you find by googling can give you an objective view of what is happening. Especially that Gawker link, who the hell would actually copy-paste that link instead of thinking: "Nah. Naaah. That link would probably make me look stupid."?
Seriously, your selective look at the world does not show what is and is not true. If you google "people killed by snakes" then you would not come to the conclusion that snakes are a serious danger to humanity, would you?
And the fact that you would instantly dismiss any right-leaning/right-wing site that says the opposite of what you want to hear does not help either.
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Because claiming the statistics are a result of a racist police force allows them to handwave away any evidence that contradicts their narrative of the poor, oppressed minorities that never do anything wrong and are just victimized and brutalized by the evil white man and his police thugs.
