Time to get rid of the Monarchy?

Should the UK get rid of the Monarchy?

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 42.3%
  • No

    Votes: 26 33.3%
  • Radioactive monkeys should rule all countries

    Votes: 19 24.4%

  • Total voters
    78
My point was that celebs have to try to stay in the public eye, because that is how they generate an income (unless we are talking about some socialite with a lot of money). The royals are paid to be the royals, which is infinitesimally little work compared to what the vast majority of the public has to do throughout their lives. If the public attention is too much, they can quit and give an interview to Oprah like celebs.
 
You don't have to be King.. you'd still be rich and famous despite abdicating.
 
Abolishing monarchy would be a decisive step towards dissolution of United Kingdom and the Commonwealth.
Since the monarchy has basically entwined itself with the notion of Britishness, then yes, the breakup of the home nations would come hand-in-hand with a fall or at least reform of the monarchy.
It is an unknown future.

One thing I will say is that if Liz Truss resigns, I doubt he will tolerate being without a PM for six weeks
while the conservative party do the short listing, and postal voting, palaver, for the 4th time in ten years.

I admired QEII, but suspect that towards the end her tiredness meant the politicos got with more sloppyiness.
This is a weakness of the system, that it is based upon the personal capabilities of one individual who cannot be removed from office and would have to be coerced into appointing a regent. Why not appoint a Lord Lieutenant of England? The old Spanish crown had viceroys not just for overseas colonies but also for the separate realms on the peninsula.
And yet both systems elect their leaders and both PM and presidents are "in charge" of their nation. Every government figures in Britian answers to Truss. Every government figures in US answers to Biden.
No, the US government doesn't answer to Biden. The executive branch does, and only to a certain degree. There's even legal provisions for his own executive removing him from office, as well as other branches of government exercising control over the presidency. It's called checks and balances.
 
Plus she's dead now lol, she doesn't have it easy or hard
 
Imagine saying this about someone worth billions who lives in a palace with servants
Or, well, alternatively, if it's such a job that even with all that help it's nightmarishly difficuly, why put the formal reins of power in the hands of somebody under such a level of strain?

Part of the reason for periodic renewal of the people in power is so that they are not ruined personally by the strain of power. As Lord Acton said, power always corrupts.
 
Plus she's dead now lol, she doesn't have it easy or hard

I dunno man, I imagine it's pretty easy being dead. Certainly harder staying alive.
 
Any chance that HM Charles III will at least come close to trying to force changes in any government's legislating? (due to personal strongly held views about the outcome etc)
As soon as the government tries to do something that may slightly inconvenience him he will be on it quicker than Andy on a 14 year old.
 
The Monarchy is a beautiful tradition. It's disgusting that so many people here want to see it go.
 
The Monarchy is a beautiful tradition. It's disgusting that so many people here want to see it go.
You lot fought a war to "see it go". As I understand it there are many over there who think that was a good thing.
 
They were against taxation without representation etc. Not the existence of the monarchy.
 
They were against taxation without representation etc. Not the existence of the monarchy.
New York Senator Rufus King (on the idea of the US getting a king):

the Americans had shown so much determination [against] their old King, that they [would] not readily submit to a new one.​
George Washington (on the idea of him becoming a king):

Be assured, Sir, no occurrence in the course of the War, has given me more painful sensations than your information of there being such ideas existing in the Army as you have expressed, & I must view with abhorrence, and reprehend with severity​
 
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