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Then I don't see the problem.
Time to get rid of the Monarchy?
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Cool! No more British monarchy, and everybody's happy. Cheers
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All monarchies are equally pointless.
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Cool! No more British monarchy, and everybody's happy. Cheers
Britian monarch are pointless
British monarchy held too much subversive power!
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Without Charles you would have only Truss to represent UK... I wonder how many people in UK are happy to have Truss as sole leader.
Reference required. BoJo has shown us exactly how much of an "unwritten constitution" the UK really has (not much that constrains the powerful seems to be the answer).
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Not even conservative party would watch a monarchy abusing its power.
Pointless, as in, without a point. Power without a point (for having that power). Let's take a fictitious example, and we'll see if you can see the problem.Britian monarch are pointless
British monarchy held too much subversive power!
Let's say we have a version of the CFC forums where there's an administrator position that can never be revoked, demoted, or deleted, even by other admins. Let's call them Root. Now, if someone is Root, they can technically do pretty much anything they want and people can do literally nothing in return. There is no way of enforcing any accountability.
Now, hilariously, and completely by accident (/s) this is actually generally how forums work at a technical level. It's how most things like forums work. You have one root user, and everyone else on top of that. Not all systems let you duplicate root access, even amongst other "administrators". Now, generally, root access is considered to be something that nobody should have, without good reason. Most stories you hear about on the Internet of people gaining root access to something or other is normally very bad news for that something or other. Because root access is so powerful - you're basically relying on the person having those powers using them in a morally-positive way.
But imagine Root sees one of your posts, and bans you for it. No particular reason, they just ban you. Or me. Or whoever. There's no point to the bannings, they just happen. You're stuffed.
This is why moderation, particularly on large, successful sites have moderation teams of more than one person. Everyone answers to a group, and often you have administrators that are technical, and administrators that handle the community itself (at least, this is how it's worked in the past for other sites I've been on - I'm just trying to explain it this way because I've been involved in running a bunch of sites in the past 10 - 15 years).
And you're here going "this is fine
" because you like Root. This is how silly your argument is. You are being fundamentally anti-democratic by going "unaccountable power is good actually because accountable power can sometimes rest in the hands of idiots".
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I probably held this belief myself back in the 90s/00s.
Why do you say this, after they were very happy watching BoJo do it? As long as the abuse was to the benefit of the rich they would be all for it.
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Because they want actual physical power for themselves not monarchy. Just like how Shogunate in Japan were happy to let Emperor be while they take all the powers.
I certainly don't think I eat enough cake.
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Honestly you guys seems to be mistakenly thinking British royals have same power as Thailand royals- they actually do have absolute power disguised as acting under democracy.
And you seem to be mistakenly thinking that any amount of unelected, unaccountable power is bad, so long as it's not as bad as someone somewhere else. Which is bizarre.
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No so long as they don't held absolute power.
Monarchy is ok as long as they don't held absolute power is my stance.
You seems to think British PMs are in cohort with monarchy in keeping power. That's not UK... that's Thailand.
Which is silly, in my opinion. You're saying that any harm they can do is okay, because they don't have absolute power. Incredible.
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What harm did they do?
It is going to be a question of semantics, but you could put all harm caused by UK laws on them as they signed them.
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And if they didn't it wouldn't be democratic would it?
If it has been approved by PM who stands for citizens of UK. Blame PM who approved it.
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Much as you dislike him Yoon isn't a tyrant. He was elected for 5 years and can't stand again. If he was a monarch you'd be stuck with him for another 20-odd years as he isn't that old.
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