Perfection
The Great Head.
I generally do not tip counter workers, and here that is generally acceptable. However, actual waiters and waitresses should get tips.
Yep, but you can't change society.
Tipping is stupid
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I'm surprised you too have made this mistake. Really, I'm sure you have the experience to know otherwise, sorry you failed your knowledge roll. Anyway:
You are correct that tipping cows has no inherent benefit to many people. This is because they do not represent a significant enough threat, therefore there is no CR by which to gain XP. However, for, say, a level one commoner tipping cows many certainly end up leading to enough xp gain to level. Then, by starting on the process to level further, a person might in the future raise their Int score, leading to greater perspicacity, spatial reasoning, and so on.
Perfection
The Great Head.
Dude, stop rambling on about your video games and let the adults talk.
I tip 20% standard, 15% when I feel the service was so-so. I tip cabbies generously and I try to leave a dollar in the jar once in a while. I tip a dollar per drink at the bar, generally, sometimes 2 if I just am getting one drink. It's a service and waiters, cabbies, and bartenders depend on it, at least in America.
I enjoy tipping and I did this when I had no money too. A lot of my friends were waiters or bartenders or busboys and I know what it's like to work a crap job and have rude condescending jerks act like they own you. I also know what it's like to have a nice person make your day.
I enjoy tipping and I did this when I had no money too. A lot of my friends were waiters or bartenders or busboys and I know what it's like to work a crap job and have rude condescending jerks act like they own you. I also know what it's like to have a nice person make your day.
ArneHD
Just a little bit mad
Tipping is not expected in Norway, so meh.
That's incredible, 20% is a lot! I might leave maximum 10% in a restaurant if the meal and service were good, but that's about it, and I'm glad tipping - particularly large percentages - isn't really expected here. I don't agree with the culture of low wages and almost-obligatory large tips; just pay your workers a decent wage.
Moggy
Warlord
I don’t understand the American way of tipping. You tip "meh" service? Or you tip if you expect to go to the same restaurant again to stop them spitting in your food? Are you seriously saying that you have to bribe American waiters to stop them messing around with your food??
I would only tip good service. Bog standard service doesn’t deserve anything extra. If the waiting staff put extra effort in then they deserve something back.
Saying that though I never understand why you tip the waiter but the cook/chef (who has done the majority of the difficult work!) gets nothing. They might be better paid but they are the more important people!
I would only tip good service. Bog standard service doesn’t deserve anything extra. If the waiting staff put extra effort in then they deserve something back.
Saying that though I never understand why you tip the waiter but the cook/chef (who has done the majority of the difficult work!) gets nothing. They might be better paid but they are the more important people!
aelf
Ashen One
Yup, but they don't give in to terrorists. Only to waiters.
10% is customary here. Less or none if the service is poor.
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woody60707
Deity
But then they couldn't advertise how cheap there pizza is.
Tipping has slowly been having a adverse effect on the wages of lower class people. The cost of paying employees' has been pushed on the cultural of tipping to the point that some jobs are paid solely on tips alone. (which the gov taxes).It used to be that 10-15% was standard. Now it's 20%
But I have no clue how to fix this. You can't stop tipping. People really do live off of tips now.
Well they get paid a full and fair wage. If waiters got paid fairly, I wouldn't tip them much either...
sophie
Break My Heart
I generally tip 15%. 20 if it's exceptional, and 10 if it's on the shoddy side. (If it's outrageous, I might not tip at all, but I haven't experienced a situation like that before).
As for waiting, I find that the hard part in it is finding balance. You want to appear as though you care for your guests, but you don't want to appear to clingy, or to show up too often. Often times you're walking a fine line between the two. The difference between outstanding waiter and atrocious one can be quite fine.
In the States tipping is customary, but not required. However those who don't tip (or even tip at 5% or below as normal) are seen as having no class. It's just something people do here. I found it really interesting that when I hopped over the pond to the UK the idea was less customary. My Dad and I weren't exactly sure how to proceed. Our relative the waiter though encouraged us to tip anyways haha.
If you really want to be mean to a waiter, tip at an extraordinarily awkward percentage. I think that'd be pretty funny (albeit quite messed up).
As for waiting, I find that the hard part in it is finding balance. You want to appear as though you care for your guests, but you don't want to appear to clingy, or to show up too often. Often times you're walking a fine line between the two. The difference between outstanding waiter and atrocious one can be quite fine.
In the States tipping is customary, but not required. However those who don't tip (or even tip at 5% or below as normal) are seen as having no class. It's just something people do here. I found it really interesting that when I hopped over the pond to the UK the idea was less customary. My Dad and I weren't exactly sure how to proceed. Our relative the waiter though encouraged us to tip anyways haha.
If you really want to be mean to a waiter, tip at an extraordinarily awkward percentage. I think that'd be pretty funny (albeit quite messed up).
PiMan
Deity
That is a good idea. From now on, I will tip 3.14159%. To the nearest 5 cents when tipping cash, due to the coinage.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
My dad usually tips 10%, maybe 15% is the service is really good (or if mom is around and he knows she would insist on him paying more than that if he doesn't give that much to begin with), and nothing if it was bad. My mom would tip 15% if it wasn't good, just under 20% on average, and often closer to 25% if the service is good.
I generally don't tip at restaurants where you pay when placing the order instead of after eating. As I mostly go to fast-casual restaurants on or near campus, I rarely tip. Most students don't seem to, although older adults who go there often do. When I do go to a restaurant where a tip is expected I probably average about 16% (usually calculating 15% and rounding up), 18% if service was good. I tend to be much more generous when using cash than credit.
I generally don't tip at restaurants where you pay when placing the order instead of after eating. As I mostly go to fast-casual restaurants on or near campus, I rarely tip. Most students don't seem to, although older adults who go there often do. When I do go to a restaurant where a tip is expected I probably average about 16% (usually calculating 15% and rounding up), 18% if service was good. I tend to be much more generous when using cash than credit.
I would say that's generally the case here. Last night a Bangladeshi meal for 12 came to £167.55, I left £180. I would say that was fair. Sure it's less than 10% but it's still a tip, rounded to the nearest 20, and as far as I know it goes to the restaurant to share out as they want, rather than it going to a specific waiter (we didn't have just one waiter who served our table).
But then they couldn't advertise how cheap there pizza is.
Swings and roundabouts I guess. There are obvious benefits for a business to pay their workers a low wage with them being supplemented by tip money, but I am still glad that isn't the culture here. I would rather my hypothetical workers were guaranteed a good wage rather than them having to rely on the kindness of strangers. I suppose that's analagous in a way to favouring high taxes over a culture of charity.
Yeah, I don't know how you would go about reversing the trend, even if people wanted to. I suppose you would enforce a minimum wage that was independent of tips. For instance I was surprised to see in the hotel I was in in Salt Lake City that the waiters there were paid $2.25/hr, which is below state minimum wage, but of course it is pushed above minimum by tips, if you get them.
aronnax
Let your spirit be free
Tipping is not customary in Singapore. But an included 10% Service charge and another 7% Goods and Service Tax is always finalised in the bill.
So tipping... is done for you. Though once I had such horrible service, I refused to pay the 10%
So tipping... is done for you. Though once I had such horrible service, I refused to pay the 10%
aronnax
Let your spirit be free
GST is tipping?
Well no. But they can make a meal really expensive.
It used to be 5%. Then they raised it. Then a month after that, all the ministers got a raise. I think the PM makes almost 5 times more than The US President.
Mise
isle of lucy
Tipping is stupid. And people who spit in food should be fired and possibly jailed for danger to public health. But I'll tip in a restaurant if the service is good.
The "culture" that makes tipping necessary in order to avoid your food being spat in is insane.
The "culture" that makes tipping necessary in order to avoid your food being spat in is insane.
nonconformist
Miserable
I tip extra if waiters make a special effort, or if they have a sense of humour.
The on e that was making jokes about my dad's balls to my family got a big one, I can tell you.
The on e that was making jokes about my dad's balls to my family got a big one, I can tell you.
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