To Catch a Predator

There was an article in this weeks local city paper about a grand father who got busted molesting his 8 year old grand-step-daughter. Oddly he was booked the same day and same jail as another relative who was molesting yet another family member.

Not too odd, really. Abuse is perpetual.
 
14 is legal here. Just gotta watch for the ones claiming to be 13.


The law has changed, 14 is now illegal if you're over 19, 15 is illegal if you're over 20, 16 is legal.

I always appreciate the good work the police do in protecting children, but I find that show to be rather exploitive. Personally I think the show is as sick as the people they catch.
 
Not too odd, really. Abuse is perpetual.

Odd only in the fact they were both arrested and charged the same day for the same thing.. I'm not at all surprized the same family was involved. I'm willing bet that one of the youngens today will be that grand father at some point.
 
Personally I think the show is as sick as the people they catch.

I've certainly gotten to that viewpoint. Feels too much like voyeurism.
 
The law has changed, 14 is now illegal if you're over 19, 15 is illegal if you're over 20, 16 is legal.

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HARPERRRRR!
 
To me, this is very simple. Are they committing an illegal act? Yes? Then arrest them.

Follow the law. You can find legal girls who look young, if that's what you're really after.

But if you break the law, don't expect sympathy. You're a criminal.
 
To me, this is very simple. Are they committing an illegal act? Yes? Then arrest them.

Follow the law. You can find legal girls who look young, if that's what you're really after.

But if you break the law, don't expect sympathy. You're a criminal.

Why is it that when you order chinese food at a restaurant they put those little red peppers in there. And you think they're so small and innocent looking that when you bite into it, they won't turn your face red hot, make you cry and search for the closest glass of anything liquid to calm the fire?:confused:
 
To me, this is very simple. Are they committing an illegal act? Yes? Then arrest them.

Follow the law. You can find legal girls who look young, if that's what you're really after.

But if you break the law, don't expect sympathy. You're a criminal.

I certainly respect your viewpoint. Laws are passed to protect our civilization and sustain a level of regularity that people can depend on. It would be chaotic if every law is challenged and no one followed them.

That said, I do have to point out that if everyone follows the law all the time, we as a society will not be able to progress and we leave opportunity for tyrants to take control of our government.

If African Americans did not break laws, it is doubtful the civil rights movement would have gained any momentum. If our forefathers did not break laws, our country would have never gained independence. I think many of our founding fathers would agree that citizens should rebel against unjust and unfair laws. Thomas Jefferson justified our rebellion through John Locke's philosophy that men are given certain inalienable rights and it is our responsibility to revolt if the government infringes upon those rights.
 
I certainly respect your viewpoint. Laws are passed to protect our civilization and sustain a level of regularity that people can depend on. It would be chaotic if every law is challenged and no one followed them.

That said, I do have to point out that if everyone follows the law all the time, we as a society will not be able to progress and we leave opportunity for tyrants to take control of our government.

If African Americans did not break laws, it is doubtful the civil rights movement would have gained any momentum. If our forefathers did not break laws, our country would have never gained independence. I think many of our founding fathers would agree that citizens should rebel against unjust and unfair laws. Thomas Jefferson justified our rebellion through John Locke's philosophy that men are given certain inalienable rights and it is our responsibility to revolt if the government infringes upon those rights.

This is an absolutely ridiculous comparison. What are you thinking?
 
You seem to be assuming that either all laws are wrong or all laws are right. You can see that there's a big difference there, right? Just because smoking pot and killing someone are both illegal acts doesn't mean that they're equivalent in any other way.

I most definitely do not believe either all laws are right or wrong.

However, you do realize the danger of everyone following every law, right?
 
Deductive reasoning. And you?

So wait. Are you seriously saying that the struggles for American independence and civil rights are equal to, similar to, or even comparable to the arrest of men who are seeking sex with boys or girls who are below the age of consent?

Reality check, man. What are you doing.

We can debate what age of consent should be. Heck, I sometimes think that 18 is too high. But to compare it to the things you are comparing it to is ridiculous and offensive.

The point you are making about "everyone following the law" is inane, pointless, bad, and inappropriate.
 
So wait. Are you seriously saying that the struggles for American independence and civil rights are equal to, similar to, or even comparable to the arrest of men who are seeking sex with boys or girls who are below the age of consent?

Reality check, man. What are you doing.

We can debate what age of consent should be. Heck, I sometimes think that 18 is too high. But to compare it to the things you are comparing it to is ridiculous and offensive.

Before you get offended, you should check what deductive reasoning is.

And a lot of things that seemingly have no connection with each other are both comparable and similar. ;)
 
I most definitely do not believe either all laws are right or wrong.

However, you do realize the danger of everyone following every law, right?

Absolutely. That's why I tend to disregard the law and only act in ways that are both moral (by my own estimation) and don't put me at risk (either from the act itself or from law enforcement). Attempting to seduce little girls is definitely a harmful act.
 
Absolutely. That's why I tend to disregard the law and only act in ways that are both moral (by my own estimation) and don't put me at risk (either from the act itself or from law enforcement). Attempting to seduce little girls is definitely a harmful act.

I'm actually not sure if attempting to seduce little girls is against the law :mischief:

I know it's illegal to have sex with them if you are an adult :lol:
 
Before you get offended, you should check what deductive reasoning is.

And a lot of things that seemingly have no connection with each other are both comparable and similar. ;)

I know what deductive reasoning is, and it has nothing to do with what you're doing. Is "deductive reasoning" your magic word? Did you just learn it in class last week, and now you think you understand it?

I'm actually not sure if attempting to seduce little girls is against the law :mischief:

I know it's illegal to have sex with them if you are an adult :lol:

It is against the law in America to attempt to seduce little girls. And yeah, wow, it's so hilarious and mischievious, isn't it? Worst use of smileys ever.
 
I know what deductive reasoning is, and it has nothing to do with what you're doing. Is "deductive reasoning" your magic word? Did you just learn it in class last week, and now you think you understand it?



It is against the law in America to attempt to seduce little girls. And yeah, wow, it's so hilarious and mischievious, isn't it? Worst use of smileys ever.

Wikipedia: Deductive reasoning, according to many dictionaries,[1] is the type of reasoning that proceeds from general principles or premises to derive particular information.

My goal was to derive the fact that laws are not always just, nor are they 100% framed to achieve their desired results.

Before you go off insulting me, you should realize that by your logic, you called our founding fathers, our first presidents, and countless American icons criminals. And to many people, they are criminals.
 
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