Today I Learned #4: Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.

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Who invented the marathon? It’s not as ancient as you think​

Most people believe the race was inspired by an ancient Greek courier, who ran 26 miles to declare victory against the Persians. They’re wrong.

Ask most people about the origins of the marathon—a race covering 26.2 miles of terrain—and you will likely hear about how Pheidippides, an ancient Greek courier, ran 26 miles from the town of Marathon to Athens to announce the Greek victory in a decisive battle over the Persians—then died on the spot. As legend would have it, the Greeks honored the herald by adding a “marathon” to the ancient Olympic Games.

But the true history is more complex and convoluted. Here’s how the race got its name—and why everything you’ve ever heard about the sport may be wrong.

Ancient origins?
First, the facts: There was an ancient Greek named Pheidippides, and he did work as a courier during the war against the Persians in 490 B.C. According to the ancient historian Herodotus, the courier did make an epic run. But Pheidippides was not heralding victory in the Battle of Marathon —he was attempting to round up troops to help beat back the Persians. Herodotus writes that the courier ran an incredible 153 miles back and forth between Athens and Sparta over 36 hours.

It worked and the Athenians won, beating back the Persians. But despite his incredible athletic feat, Pheidippides is not recorded as delivering news of the victory or dying afterwards. Instead, sources conflict on whether the name of a messenger who did so was Thersippos or Eukles. In A.D. 347, Plutarch recorded that “most say it was Eukles, who, running with his armor hot from the battle...could only say ‘Be happy! We have won!’ and immediately expired.”

The legend of Pheidippides announcing the Marathon victory seems to have originated more than a thousand years later in the 19th century, when Robert Browning wrote a popular poem in which the courier ran to Athens, declared “Rejoice, we conquer!” and died.

However, none of these men inspired a race at the ancient Olympics. Though those competitions did involve footraces, they covered shorter distances that were measured by the stadion, an increment determined by the length of the Athens stadium. The longest race was a mere 24-stade jaunt, or about 2.85 miles. (That doesn’t mean it was easy, though: Historians point out that in at least one competition, runners were decked out in 60-pound armor.)

The real origins of marathons​

So how did the marathon get its name and distance? Runners can thank French linguist and classicist Michel Bréal for both.

In the 1890s, Bréal participated in the founding congress of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), which proposed a series of international competitions inspired by the ancient games that would rotate among countries every four years. Greece had been hosting its own revived Olympics for years, but the IOC wanted to formalize them as a competition between nations.

Bréal suggested that one of the events be a footrace from Marathon to Pnyx, where the ancient Athenians held their most popular assemblies—a distance of 40 kilometers, or 24.8 miles. “See if we can organize a Marathon race at the Pnyx,” he wrote. “It will have an antique flavor.” The organizers were enthusiastic about the idea, and at the 1896 Summer Games in Athens, Greek athlete Spiridon Louis won the race. It was a victory for Greece—and for alcohol, which Louis imbibed to help him get through the grueling race, during which he collapsed at least once.

Only in 1908 was the race extended to 26.2 miles, in deference to the British royal family. The Olympics were held in London that year, and the mileage “arbitrarily” lengthened so King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra could easily view the finish line from the royal box. The seeming winner of that lengthier marathon, Italian pastry chef Dorando Pietri, fell a reported five times from exhaustion during the race, and his victory was contested due to the assistance he got from officials on the field, who worried he might die in the presence of the royals. Instead, the second finisher, U.S. runner John Hayes, was declared the winner. The brutal finish made both men wildly popular, and the race has been 26.2 miles ever since.

Racing into modern history​

Since then, marathons have only grown in popularity. The first U.S. marathon was held in Boston in 1897, and though it began nearly a century later, in 1970, the New York City Marathon is now the nation’s biggest.

Women, barred from most marathons until the 1970s, now have excel in their own events, as do people with disabilities. Meanwhile, ultramarathons and other races have increased in popularity as the sport of running pounds on...and on...and on. It may not have its roots in a courier’s death, but the marathon race won’t lose pace any time soon.


 
TIL about the ancient Native American Curse of Tecumseh.


Elected in 1840, President William Henry Harrison died while in office.
Elected in 1860, President Abraham Lincoln died while in office.
Elected in 1880, President James A. Garfield died while in office.
Elected in 1900, President William McKinley died while in office.
Elected in 1920, President Warren G. Harding died while in office.
Elected in 1940, President Franklin D. Roosevelt died while in office.
Elected in 1960, President John. F. Kennedy died while in office.

Elected in 1980, President Ronald Reagan was shot while in office, but did not die.
Elected in 2000, President George W. Bush choked on a pretzel and passed out. He also had a live Soviet-made RGD-5 hand grenade thrown at him a few years later, but it did not go off. He did not die during either event.
Elected in 2020, President Joe Biden beat Trump in a fair election and hasn't had a single problem.

Clearly the curse is getting weaker! :D
 
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He also had a live Soviet-made RGD-5 hand grenade thrown at him a few years later, but it did not go off.
Not to mention a shoe.

Re: Biden: Bite your tongue. Term ain't over yet.
 
TIL about the ancient Native American Curse of Tecumseh.


Elected in 1840, President William Henry Harrison died while in office.
Elected in 1860, President Abraham Lincoln died while in office.
Elected in 1880, President James A. Garfield died while in office.
Elected in 1900, President William McKinley died while in office.
Elected in 1920, President Warren G. Harding died while in office.
Elected in 1940, President Franklin D. Roosevelt died while in office.
Elected in 1960, President John. F. Kennedy died while in office.

Elected in 1980, President Ronald Reagan was shot while in office, but did not die.
Elected in 2000, President George W. Bush choked on a pretzel and passed out. He also had a live Soviet-made RGD-5 hand grenade thrown at him a few years later, but it did not go off. He did not die during either event.
Elected in 2020, President Joe Biden beat Trump in a fair election and hasn't had a single problem.

Clearly the curse is getting weaker! :D
Now I'm wondering why its called Tecumseh's Curse when his younger brother Tenskwatawa was supposedly the one who did the cursing.
 
Now I'm wondering why its called Tecumseh's Curse when his younger brother Tenskwatawa was supposedly the one who did the cursing.
Because White Americans can't pronounce Tenskwatawa?
 
Clearly the curse is getting weaker! :D
On the one hand, Reagan survived. On the other, Reagan survived and he was made a martyr. Arguably the curse has only strengthened with time.
Because White Americans can't pronounce Tenskwatawa?
They kinda cannot pronounce the word ‘America’ already.
 
On the one hand, Reagan survived. On the other, Reagan survived and he was made a martyr. Arguably the curse has only strengthened with time.

They kinda cannot pronounce the word ‘America’ already.
Pronouncing indigenous words can be a crapshoot. Some people can't manage "Nunavut" even though it's our newest northern Territory, let alone pronouncing the capital: Iqaluit. I don't have a problem with that one. "Inuktitut" is also easy (one of the territorial official languages of Nunavut; it's not a federal official language; of course I'm not claiming the language itself is easy as the only part of it I know is its name).

But there are some words that baffle me, and the various alphabets... honestly, Greek is easier (have been learning some thanks to some of @Kyriakos' posts, as well as what I knew earlier). I'm even learning to recognize some Russian words, due to the multilingual nature of the comment stream in the Wuauquikuna livestreams and some comments on the fanfiction sites.
 
TIL: about kissing!


In the absence of compelling evidence to the contrary I'd guess humans have been makin out for hundreds of thousands of years. Indeed, I find the idea that it arose among elites in complex societies relatively recently to be kind of absurd on its face, and the following quote:

“My hunch is that kissing arose or was discovered amongst the elite in complex societies,” says Jankowiak. The elite were able to pursue pleasure and turn sex into an erotic encounter, he says.
really reminds me of something I read from Thomas Jefferson, that Africans just rutted like animals and only whites had the capacity to experience feelings of romance and love. As if hunter-gatherers were too dumb to understand eroticism?

I briefly looked into the 2015 paper that Jankowiak co-authored on this and I need much more compelling evidence than what's in there.
 
really reminds me of something I read from Thomas Jefferson, that Africans just rutted like animals and only whites had the capacity to experience feelings of romance and love. As if hunter-gatherers were too dumb to understand eroticism?
I could say that it is a little like the idea the bonobos and dolphins do not understand erotism.
 
In the absence of compelling evidence to the contrary I'd guess humans have been makin out for hundreds of thousands of years. Indeed, I find the idea that it arose among elites in complex societies relatively recently to be kind of absurd on its face, and the following quote:


really reminds me of something I read from Thomas Jefferson, that Africans just rutted like animals and only whites had the capacity to experience feelings of romance and love. As if hunter-gatherers were too dumb to understand eroticism?

I briefly looked into the 2015 paper that Jankowiak co-authored on this and I need much more compelling evidence than what's in there.
4500 years ago isn't really that long, given how long ago the anthropologists and archaeologists have been able to trace human civilization. It's c. 2500 BCE, which means complex societies with government and religious/spiritual beliefs and rituals, sophisticated tool use, numeracy, literacy, engineering, visual art, music, geometry, abstract thought, writing to express abstract thoughts and stories, rather than just bare facts... and so on.

If people back then had all this, do not tell me they couldn't figure out kissing. And since technology is not required for kissing, it's likely been going on since humans were humans.

Most mammals and birds have some kind of courtship ritual, and while some species only mate once with a specific individual, others may be monogamous for life once they've chosen their mate. There are incidents of jealousy and "trying to take my 'man'" away from other females (saw this in a documentary about penguins - two females fighting over the male even after the actual couple have performed their courtship ritual and decided to be a couple).
 
For some the hard evidence of a written text is required. Some number of years ago I read an article that linked kissing to mothers feeding babies mouth to mouth with chewed food. That would easily push the origins way back in hominid history. Of note is that the earliest written records of kissing go back to the very early days of writing. "Pornography" began as soon as a medium was available! :lol:
 
For some the hard evidence of a written text is required. Some number of years ago I read an article that linked kissing to mothers feeding babies mouth to mouth with chewed food. That would easily push the origins way back in hominid history. Of note is that the earliest written records of kissing go back to the very early days of writing. "Pornography" began as soon as a medium was available! :lol:

Indeed.
 
No, writing goes back to about 3200 BCE in Uruk. Cave painting go back tens of thousands of years. You will have to do your own research on erotic cave paintings though. My whole point is that people express their sexuality/intimacy freely in the ways available: Art, music, writing, sculpture, dance, theater, and personal interaction, etc.
 
No, writing goes back to about 3200 BCE in Uruk. Cave painting go back tens of thousands of years. You will have to do your own research on erotic cave paintings though. My whole point is that people express their sexuality/intimacy freely in the ways available: Art, music, writing, sculpture, dance, theater, and personal interaction, etc.
I was idly curious and don't intend to research prehistoric porn. :p
 
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