2. FDR [...] actually encouraged attacks so he would have an excuse to join the war with Britain.
Mmmm...what's so bad about America saving the free world and smacking down an uppity Asian Great Power? We GA'ed off of that Marine victory at Guadalcanal, after all.
carmen510 said:
3. Woodrow Wilson. Encouraged attacks as well to join war with Britain.
Again with the conspiracy theories and the automatic assumption that war is bad. Wilson ain't so great, but at least slam him for the resurrected Alien and Sedition Act (not sure of actual name; believe it was 1917 Espionage Act), the complete destruction of any semblance of order in Europe, and the Palmer raids, not some tripe like joining a war that we were going to get into sooner or later.
Which makes him one of the better ones, really.
Stimmt - although he could have picked a better VP. I mean, come on,
Tyler?
He's not good by any means, though calling him the worst ever is laughable. You need to check out the Harding or Hoover administrations and attempt to repeat that nonsense.
Hoover wasn't nearly so bad as Harding. Arthur would be up there too if not for the Pendleton Civil Service Act.
LightSpectra said:
And here, we apparently have far-
right propaganda, strangely.
Check this graph and then
this one and finally
this one, notice that the New Deal began in '33.
FDR was no economic genius (and a miniature Stalin to boot, though I'm not really complaining), but he didn't make things
worse. They just didn't get better really really fast, which is apparently enough to indict a President on charges of crimes against the economy. "You didn't provide me with instant relief! Curse you!"
Now, assuming that we're not counting the "evilness" of the leader, where otherwise Mao Zedong, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Pol Pot, Leopold II, Ismail Enver, Kim Il Sung, Hideki Tojo, Omar Hassan al-Bashir, etc. would all take the front spots.
Counting evilness would be sort of silly, I agree.
LightSpectra said:
In terms of just overall prosperity of the nation, I would argue that leaders who allowed their nation to fall into civil war or deep depression because of their hedonism, greed or general incompetence are the worst leaders in history. Charles I, Louis XVI, Nicholas II, Nero Caesar, whichever Chinese emperor/empress who refused to modernize and thereby allowed China to be conquered several times in a row, and so on.
If you mean Charles I of France, you can blame the succession system of Francia in general, not just him - he fixed everything but that, after all.
If it's Carlos I of Spain (aka Karl V, Heiliger römischer Kaiser), then I fail to see how abandoning a monolithically poorly run Empire for two Empires, both of which were somewhat less poorly run and able to concentrate on their respective spheres of activity, makes him a bad ruler. I suppose he could be indicted for failing to eliminate Lutheranism and the rest of the Protestant groups as viable political and social influences within the Empire, but that was never going to work anyway, what with the problems of martyrdom and the strangely energetic Valois French under Francois I. And Louis wasn't really
bad, IMHO, but he was unfortunately indecisive, and probably many better rulers than he would have been toppled by the confusing insurrections of 1789-1815. (He even had a relatively ingenious plan for eliminating the problematic nobility, but failed to summon the nerve to carry it out; that's the whole reason he was in that mess, after all.) Personally, I can come up with several extremely poor Roman Emperors (Diocletian, to name someone with a massively overinflated reputation, as well as Augustus; some of the later, Eastern, Emperors were also pretty bad, like basically all of the Angelid dynasty as well as every Doukid except Ioann III, Doukas Vatatzes), and Matthias Corvinus basically guaranteed the disintegration of Hungary after his death by antagonizing all of his neighbors and overstretching himself.