U.S. Presidential Election 2024 Part II: 象対ロバ

[saamohod]

Should have negotiated with the shooter. Why kill him? Violence is never a solution.

 

[PPQ_Purple]

What just happened?

 

[Moriarte]

Should have negotiated with the shooter. Why kill him? Violence is never a solution.

How many people in crowd?

How many more rounds in that AR magazine?

Tactical team's decision was correct in this situation. Neutralise first, negotiate later.

 

[Kyriakos]

This could well be the final wake-up call. Next stop the road to civil war will be officially open.
It didn't come from nowhere, it's the last in a terrible progression of polarization and escalations. A few years ago some of us were posting about how the abuse of impeachment and the rhetoric of foreign government puppetry could lead to far worse soon. Maybe now that we are quite a few steps closer to no return, it can be seen for what it was.

 

[Zardnaar]

Should have negotiated with the shooter. Why kill him? Violence is never a solution.

They couldn't get to him before he emptied the gun or reloaded.

It's essentially suicide.

 

[Zardnaar]

This could well be the final wake-up call. Next stop the road to civil war will be officially open.
It didn't come from nowhere, it's the last in a terrible progression of polarization and escalations. A few years ago some of us were posting about how the abuse of impeachment and the rhetoric of foreign government puppetry could lead to far worse soon. Maybe now that we are quite a few steps closer to no return, it can be seen for what it was.

Proportional response. Far left can be annoying and preachy but they're not really hurting people. The ones that do should be punished.

Newt Gingrich started escalating the rhetoric back in the 90s. Eg calling people traitors for disagreeing things like that.

There's no left wing Fox news equivalent.

 

[Cutlass]

This could well be the final wake-up call. Next stop the road to civil war will be officially open.
It didn't come from nowhere, it's the last in a terrible progression of polarization and escalations. A few years ago some of us were posting about how the abuse of impeachment and the rhetoric of foreign government puppetry could lead to far worse soon. Maybe now that we are quite a few steps closer to no return, it can be seen for what it was.

We've been saying all along that Republicans shouldn't do those things.

 

[Kyriakos]

We've been saying all along that Republicans shouldn't do those things.

They aren't the only ones doing them. Both sides are dangerously messing up and there's only worse to come if people don't quickly abandon the party jingoism.
I've said it before: if Trump had won in 2020, you'd now literally be a few months away from the end of Trump as potus. Now you are looking at four more years, and who knows what will happen if the polarization keeps being so dangerously high.
People win, people lose, parties don't stay in power forever and they don't express satan and god.

 

[Sarin]

They couldn't get to him before he emptied the gun or reloaded.

It's essentially suicide.

I feel like you've missed the point more than the shooter.

 

[Voidwalkin]

So the shooter is rumored to have been a registered Republican who was wearing a gun nut youtube channel t-shirt.

Thomas Matthew Crooks. Seems like everybody is using all 3 names again.

 

[PPQ_Purple]

Proportional response. Far left can be annoying and preachy but they're not really hurting people. The ones that do should be punished.

Newt Gingrich started escalating the rhetoric back in the 90s. Eg calling people traitors for disagreeing things like that.

There's no left wing Fox news equivalent.

No, the far left has in fact been systematically working to silence, exclude, extinguish and generally crush all dissenting voices in the western world. Say anything they dislike and they immediately start a campaign to "cancel" you and "deplatform" you. Their words. There is really no difference between the radicals of any movement no matter what they espouse to preach.

 

[Kyriakos]

So the shooter is rumored to have been a registered Republican who was wearing a gun nut youtube channel t-shirt.

Thomas Matthew Crooks. Seems like everybody is using all 3 names again.

He was just a kid.
Biden said one correct thing, this is a sickness.

From

Crooks: "I hate republicans, I hate Trump".
Another problematic kid. A mere symptom, yet he may play the role of a catalyst. Life lost for nothing, and by now I doubt people will change their ways.

 

[Verbose]

No, the far left has in fact been systematically working to silence, exclude, extinguish and generally crush all dissenting voices in the western world. Say anything they dislike and they immediately start a campaign to "cancel" you and "deplatform" you. Their words. There is really no difference between the radicals of any movement no matter what they espouse to preach.

It's a rot spreading from the US in particular. The rest of us get it as an import.

And we do get it, since the US is important and looms large, and every US idea gets at lest tried, even the bad ones. Even the UK squirms at the weird US identity politics it gets as a hand-me-down.

It's part of why Europe should at least listen quite a lot less to the anglosphere.

 

[E.man]

Rest of World: No surprise here.

 

[E.man]

It's a rot spreading from the US in particular. The rest of us get it as an import.

And we do get it, since the US is important and looms large, and every US idea gets at lest tried, even the bad ones. Even the UK squirms at the weird US identity politics it gets as a hand-me-down.

It's part of why Europe should at least listen quite a lot less to the anglosphere.

Yeah, everything American washes across to us in Australia too. Even stupid stuf like 'the voting machines are rigged' when we don't even have them.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yeah, everything American washes across to us in Australia too. Even stupid stuf like 'the voting machines are rigged' when we don't even have them.

Same Americanisns.

 

[Senethro]

No, the far left has in fact been systematically working to silence, exclude, extinguish and generally crush all dissenting voices in the western world. Say anything they dislike and they immediately start a campaign to "cancel" you and "deplatform" you. Their words. There is really no difference between the radicals of any movement no matter what they espouse to preach.

If you're equally scared of what the left says and the right does, your ability to evaluate is in question.

 

[Zardnaar]

No, the far left has in fact been systematically working to silence, exclude, extinguish and generally crush all dissenting voices in the western world. Say anything they dislike and they immediately start a campaign to "cancel" you and "deplatform" you. Their words. There is really no difference between the radicals of any movement no matter what they espouse to preach.

You don't remember the hysteria post 9/11? Eg freedom fries.

I saw Fox news 2005 after terrorist event in Spain iirc. Their coverage was extreme.

Annoying leftie tell them to shut up. Proportional.

 

[Verbose]

Yeah, everything American washes across to us in Australia too. Even stupid stuf like 'the voting machines are rigged' when we don't even have them.

It's why every agent of disruption out to cause trouble in the western world in general does so in English.

There might be sidelines in major languages like French, German and Italian etc., but really, all you need is good traction in. English for whatever is being peddled, and it will get spread around and turn up a bit of all over the place.

The BS from the left mostly turns up in academia – where there tends to be cooler minds around still. Even if a select group of students tend to go the activist route, and takes its cues from the US, because, why not...? The point is to be radical AF anyway.

The biggest problem for academia aren't the academics, or even student activism – it's the new management models for research and higher education, imported largely from the US and UK (supposedly the best universities in the world...), where HR and public relations officers have taken over, and then gets lashed forward by the social media BS (which they fear) that short-cuts actual thinking and deliberation half the time.

 

[Senethro]

The biggest problem for academia aren't the academics, or even student activism – it's the new management models for research and higher education, imported largely from the US and UK (supposedly the best universities in the world...), where HR and public relations officers have taken over, and then gets lashed forward by the social media BS (which they fear) that short-cuts actual thinking and deliberation half the time.

These are two different things. The Anglo commercialization of tertiary education is not linked to supposed left wing ideological push via social media.